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1983-P Jeff Nickel- Off Center & Broadstrike.

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 Posted 03/11/2011  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list
If one used a micrometer to measure the diameter in the direction affected, that's exactly what you'd find on a broadstruck coin. But sometimes a broadstrike can be so minor, it's tough to decipher from a normal coin, at that point, they don't command a premium.

It's an off center coin when both sides of the coin show the same degree of O/C in the same direction. When it's just one side of the coin (usually the obverse), it's easily attributed to a mis-aligned die.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
That's a nice find chuckster! On an '83 to boot!
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 Posted 03/11/2011  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
Liveandie, So you are saying not all broadstrikes are larger in diameter than a normal coin? Can you explain to me how that happens?
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 Posted 03/11/2011  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list
What I'm saying PyrBob it this- a coin can be technically broadstruck, with the collar die slightly out of position, to a degree so minor that it's imperceptible to the naked eye. On more dramatic examples they're hard to miss. I never said that the diameter wasn't affected on a broadstrike. I said the degree to which a coin can be broadstruck can vary greatly.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
I don't agree with you. If the collar is slightly out of position then you have a partial collar strike and not a broadstrike. A broadstrike is an out of collar strike. I will admit, you did not say the diameter wasn't affected. I am still interested in hearing from Chuck what the diameter of this nickel is.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list
Would you be interested in looking in a RedBook? The diameter of a nickel is 21.2 millimeters.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
pyrbob;

The diameter is measuring the exact same size of a normal nickel.

This nickel is not larger.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list
Partial collar strike would be a more accurate term for the type of coin you're talking about PryBob, you're accurate in saying that. But, that isn't what this coin is- this coin is simply a mis-aligned die. I say so to bring the original intent of the thread back to were it was intended. Nice example of a mis-aligned die.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list
A MAD is always the normal diameter of the coin.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list
I agree, this coin is a MAD and a nice one. Good find Chuck.
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 Posted 03/11/2011  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
Hi,

The description of this coin is that it is a misaligned die strike. The obverse is off center in appearance yet the reverse is centered.

The coin was struck within the collar so it is not broadstruck.

It also has some counting machine damage on the obverse visible as a scraped arc on Jefferson's shoulder.

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Bill
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 Posted 03/12/2011  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Thanks again for all the help!

MAD it is!
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 Posted 03/12/2011  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
We used to see circular damage from parking meters. Dunno how a counting machine would cause that.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list
Counting machine causes severe friction on the high points of the coin when it gets jammed in the machine. A wrapping machine though, will cause a circular scratch on one side of the coin from the metal finger that tucks the wrapper.
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