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As A Seller? A Lesson Learned

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 Posted 04/04/2011  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list
I've sold a lot of stuff on ebay, but never coins. Most of the time, for low-value items, I don't bother with delivery confirmation, and I've never once had someone claim they didn't receive my items. Yet I've seen many sellers talking about their coin shipments never being received (or, more accurately, buyers claiming they never received them). Are ebay coin buyers more likely to be scam artists, or, for shipments where a person can see it's a coin, are postal employees helping themselves to a freebie?
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 Posted 04/10/2011  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crownman to your friends list
Yes, I had a similar problem but as a buyer on ebay recently. I bid on and won an auction for a short set of Mercury dimes and they were clearly not the ones in the picture. So I sent them back, but didn't use tracking or delivery confirmation and the seller says he never got them back. I can't prove he did or didn't so now I'm out the money and the dimes. Luckily it wasn't that much money, but I've definitely learned my lesson. I gave him negative feedback because the dimes wouldn't have gotten "lost" if he sent me the right ones in the first place!
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 Posted 04/11/2011  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
I don't fully believe that the seller is responsible to get the item to the buyer beyond shipping it in a secure, reasonable fashion. Ideally, if the post messes up, the buyer and seller should SPLIT the loss. I would do this with people I know. Not the way it works on paypal, however.
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04/11/2011 04:15 am
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 Posted 04/11/2011  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list
But it works the same way with major retailers, shadow. If I bought a book from Amazon, for instance, and it never came, Amazon wouldn't try to split the difference claiming they shipped it, so it wasn't entirely their problem. The one time it happened to me, Amazon offered me the choice of replacement or refund, although I suspect most vendors would have a policy of one or the other.

The point is, if you buy something from a seller, you have paid to receive the item you purchased. You haven't paid merely for the seller to make best effort to get it to you.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samuel tan to your friends list
My experience is the other way around.
I never sell anything through ebay. I bought a lot, or I must say I snipe a lot. Few times if the price is way low, the sellers acting stupid. They pretend they send the merchandise in the hurry, forgot to buy delivery confirmation, will never do that again. I knew their trick, they send my money back in the hurry. For something like that, I would like to expose their name in the forum.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list
I had a similar experience with an ebay seller where after no coin was delivered he refunded my purchase and shipping with no question about delivery. The coin in question was considerable under sold for it's value. I'm sure he just said it was sent and is still holding it for future sale.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
That's Amazon, small time sellers aren't the same as big time retailers. You have the responsibility to ship something in a reasonable fashion (not an envelope for something worth $1000 for example) but beyond that...obviously if you want to please people though, you probably refund them anyway. The buyer pays to get the item, but the post office messing up is beyond either party's control...ESPECIALLY if the buyer specifically asks for the cheapest method. I guess a reasonable compromise is charging for tracking, but if the buyer opts out they should have to eat the cost.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list
I won't send anything on any auction site without tracking and signature required if they don't want to pay it's not worth it,either figure in your price up front or state it in your add,return postage the same way no matter what.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list
The shipping company (no matter who it is) works for, and is hired by, the seller so the seller is responsible for them also.
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 Posted 04/19/2011  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
USPS is not 'hired' by the seller, lol...

I don't know about the technical definition, but just being realistic.
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 Posted 04/19/2011  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Small seller/large seller has nothing to do with it. The large seller might have a slightly better loss experience because they package and label better, and they negotiate much better shipping rates, but the rule still is deliver or refund.

The little guy had better insure a $1000 item, simply because a loss like that could be devastating. If he shipped hundreds of similar items a day, he'd either have a corporate policy, or figure losses as a cost of doing business.

Most volume sellers can tell you their losses are one per 1000-2000 packages. If you only paid $1 to insure up to $50, it quickly becomes obvious that you pay $1000-2000 in insurance for one $50 claim. Now you know why the PO clerk always suggests insurance!
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 Posted 04/19/2011  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
The part I've never understood is I pay USPS to move my box from points A to B. If they can't manage to do that, I should get my money and the value of the contents back.

Why, then, do I have to pay for insurance to guarantee they do the job I paid them to do?

Isn't that like hiring someone, then having to pay them again to be sure they'll do the job they were hired for?
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 Posted 04/19/2011  05:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list

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I won't send anything on any auction site without tracking and signature required if they don't want to pay it's not worth it,either figure in your price up front or state it in your add

I do exactly the same thing no matter what I sell. I will tell them in the description what the shipping charges are and will even break down the price to them so they see I don't make a dime on the shipping, I just tell them I want to make sure it gets in their hands instead of being left on the front porch where anyone can come by and pick it up. I have never had a problem since I started this and hope to never have one but hopefully if I ever do I will have all the proof needed to have a claim come out in my favor
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 Posted 04/19/2011  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Ideally yeah, USPS should reimburse you if they lose your package. It's the main option for lower level shipping so I can't fault the seller for USPS losing it. My 'losses' have been higher than 1 in 1000, but I'm assuming that a number of them have just been delayed...then the buyer gets it later and doesn't bother to contact me after I refunded.
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 Posted 04/19/2011  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list
quote][/quote]If you do a refund keep in mind USPS won't open a claim till at least 30 days after item was to arrive
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