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Reichsbanknote 1000

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 Posted 03/28/2012  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcarter1208a to your friends list


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From what I have read about these notes, there seems to be a difference in the ones stamped with red and the ones stamped in green. Any truth to that? I just got this from a relative who passed away a while back, think I'll probably get a good frame and hang it on my office wall. Any ideas on it's value?
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 Posted 03/28/2012  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
Red serial no. and seal is #44.
The seven digit serial no. printed after 1916 tend to command a lower price. VG $5.00 VF $10.00

Green serial no. seal is #45.
Again the seven digit no. (reprinted between 1918-22)again lower value than the 6 digit. VG $2.00 VF $4.00

Hope this helps.
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 Posted 03/28/2012  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list
The notes with the red serial numbers were backed by gold. The ones with green serial numbers were not.

I just finished reading an excellent history of the hyperinflationary period called "When Money Dies". I highly recommend it to anyone who has an interest in this period. You can find it on Amazon.
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 Posted 03/28/2012  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list
Yes the cathedral is there, but a lot of people get confused with the cathedral and the basilica which is more in the centre and has an onion dome rather than the spiked towers of the cathedral.
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 Posted 03/29/2012  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goldcoin10 to your friends list
The RM 1000 its a very nice Note
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 Posted 03/30/2012  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Million is million in German, Milliarde is Billion, Billiarde is Quadrillion


So German Billion is our Trillion, correct?
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 Posted 03/30/2013  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlejohn to your friends list
Hi biggfredd,

that is correct.

@augsburger: There were Billiarde-notes in Germany
I could post a picture but I`m afraid I don`t know how...
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 Posted 03/30/2013  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlejohn to your friends list
Yes, here is the picture:

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 Posted 03/31/2013  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list
Cool. How much did this actually circulate? I know it's only notgeld, and that sometimes notgeld was produced to be sold to collectors rather than actually circulate, but this one looks used and not so pretty.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlejohn to your friends list
This one was definitely not issued to be sold to collectors only. The Notgeld for collectors was the Serienscheine which were issued and sold after the final date of validity. This procedure was in fact done to bring the coin money to the citiesadministration and get papermoney in return due to empty pockets of the cities after the war. Every other Notgeld really circulated and you were able to buy something with it. The shown banknote is the highest nominal ever found in Germany and the banknote is very very rare. I`m not sure about the total amount of issued notes (the shown) but be aware there are not much of them.
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03/31/2013 09:01 am
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 Posted 03/31/2013  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list
Don't think the Serienscheine were issued after becoming invalid; see the introduction here (p. 15-17) for example. http://www.gietl-verlag.de/blaetter...og/index.php That note from Duderstadt is interesting because it seems to be dated 29 Nov 1923 - at a time when the Rentenmark had already been issued. Maybe that one never circulated? According to the city of Duderstadt http://duderstadt.de/1075-jahre/amu...tarchiv.html the "5 Billionen" note was the highest denomination ...

Christian
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 Posted 03/31/2013  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlejohn to your friends list
Due to my poor English let me explain it in different words. Most of the Serienscheine were printed with a date let`s say 12th of July 1921 and were sold the first time on July 25th 1921. It was not possible to buy anything with Serienscheine (except some rare Bausteine which are wrong in that catalogue). Regarding the article about Duderstadt I can only say: Absolutely wrong. It is said in the article that "the 5 Billion Mark was the highest nominal ever printed in Germany". That is false. I show you some evidences from my collection:

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and finally this one from a former auction:
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 Posted 04/01/2013  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ark to your friends list
For anyone who wants help with the large number names (million, milliard, etc) this is really useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales 'Short' scale is the one we're all familiar with and 'Long' is the one used on these German notes.
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 Posted 04/02/2013  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list

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Due to my poor English let me explain it in different words. Most of the Serienscheine were printed with a date let`s say 12th of July 1921 and were sold the first time on July 25th 1921. It was not possible to buy anything with Serienscheine (except some rare Bausteine which are wrong in that catalogue).

Nah, your English looks fine to me (allerdings spreche auch ich besser deutsch als englisch ;) ). I was aware of those Serienscheine not actually being used but mostly made for collectors - what I did not know is that in such cases the actual issue date was after the printed date. Interesting ...

And yes, I wondered about that comment in the article from Duderstadt.de too ... But admittedly I do not collect paper money but that does not mean I'm not interested.

Christian
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 Posted 04/02/2013  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list

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'Short' scale is the one we're all familiar with and 'Long' is the one used on these German notes.

Errm, I'm from Europe, and I would certainly not put it that way. ;) But thanks for the helpful link!

Christian
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