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1921 Liberty Half Fake?

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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add misiek to your friends list
That's a great observation with regards to the 9. I checked out the 2 to but didn't think too much about the other numbers.
I think that might be the key giveaway as it seems evident that the lower loop doesn't even come close to the left edge of the upper loop.
This however begs the question whether or not the date was uniformly struck for this year, but something tells me when I see the coin, I'll for sure if its a fake by weighting it. It just worries me that the overall appearance of the coin in the picture seems to be unlike other 1921 P half dollars
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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
I would say fake. the shape of the sun on the obverse of a true Walking Liberty half appears to be almost round. The coin you're talking about seems to be almost egg-shaped.

Here's my 1921:


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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
The flowing scarf tips to the left of the obverse are also not the same as Jaobler's. Check out the end flips of the scarf (top & bottom) and the little scarf tip that comes directly from the body.

I say fake.

Sorry.
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04/07/2011 6:37 pm
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 Posted 04/07/2011  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add misiek to your friends list
Thank you for the help guys, much appareciated. There is too much evidence against the coins being real so I'm going to withdraw from purchasing it.
Too bad as the quality seemed really nice.

Thanks again
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 Posted 04/07/2011  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list
how much does he want for it?
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 Posted 04/07/2011  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Funny Money to your friends list
I agree with Moe... the sun, the scarf, the date, even "In god we trust " is different.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
This oldtimer casts a vote for this one being a fake. Note that the last one in the date is somewhat high. That's probably so that other 1920's dates can be more easily produced. I've seen these before; the last time being at a flea market outside Youngstown, Ohio. The dealer had both a P+D; same look and grade as this one. To his credit, he was savvy and honest, having them on display for collectors to be wary. I bought some real coins from him that day ... good deals, and my way of giving him a pat on the back.

One method of peddling these copies is to put them in an album or in a page, alongside legitimate coins. Seeing this, the buyer is more likely to believe that he's getting a deal when, in reality, he's the one getting hooked.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list
I have the same observation as ExoGuy as far as the last One in the date being too high.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I haven't heard anything about a price here yet. That too might be tip off that the seller knows if real or not. I noticed you said someone in your area and not someone you know. When it comes to buying or selling coins you should be carefull of who you talk to and/or mention you collect coins in your area if you do not really know them. Maybe not in this case but someone pretending to be from your area and selling coins could also be trying to find out who has a coin collection. So you don't buy this one but he now knows you and that you collect coins.
Of course my statements of those situations are based on the area I live where crime runs rampant. By me everyone plays like they are broke, have nothing of value, can't afford anything, etc.
Better to be safe than sorry.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add misiek to your friends list
Thanks for the responses, I know a little about spotting fakes, alterations, AT, and so on but only the basics that apply to every series and just general guidelines. I know individual series' have their own thing to look for but it's just too much for me to go after. That's why I appreciate all the help from you guys. As far as the price goes, lets just say that I would get a good deal buying the lot without the 1921 Half Dollar, so I was hoping for a steal if it turned out real but unfortunately after seeing the picture all sorts of red flags arose.

After that dissection of the coin though I feel like a complete amateur for missing all the signs.
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 Posted 04/07/2011  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 50cents to your friends list
Fake!
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04/07/2011 11:03 pm
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 Posted 04/08/2011  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Funny Money to your friends list
If this one is fake, are you sure the others are genuine?
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 Posted 04/08/2011  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
Have you checked the weight? That could cinch the consensus here. The copies are generally underweight by 10% or more. A genuine coin in this condition would not likely be more than a tenth of a single gram, if that.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 50cents to your friends list
The China fakes of the 1921 key date Walkers are pretty easy to spot because of the weak centers.
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Take a look at these fakes
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 Posted 04/09/2011  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdh157 to your friends list
wow........comparing the pics he sent to the pics of the fakes really makes it look fake now
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