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Rest in Peace
United States
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A local dealer is paying $1.20 per hundred for copper cents, and turning them on ebay for $1.50-1.70. As I've shown, the money is in turning them, not holding them, even if copper prices go down. No different than stock or real estate--the brokers encourage people to buy and sell, because they make money either way. If you don't want to fiddle around searching to make kaughy money, or don't want people to know about your coins, then turning is not for you. Let's say you were going to put $10,000 in savings for some long-term need. Does it really matter whether you have the money in a bank account or a pile of cents? Either has risks, but the cents are guaranteed to be worth $10,000.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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We've been so spoiled with artificially low silver prices for so long that people are actually upset that it is now correcting and finding it's historic range in relation to gold and the dollar.
It sucks, but my question is why didn't the complainers buy more when it was less than a buck for a silver dime?
I'm not knocking anyone personally, just making an observation.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
At coin shows many dealers are no longer buying Silver or Gold. Many suspect the metals value crash is soon to come. And when it does, and they say it will, to many will be stuck with large quantites of what used to be way up there in prices. A stock market person I know told me to sell any Silver now since he too expects the metals crash to be coming soon.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
632 Posts |
Quote: A stock market person I know told me to sell any Silver now since he too expects the metals crash to be coming soon. Did he give a reason?
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Valued Member
United States
439 Posts |
The run up of Silver, gold, and other commodities is a reflection of the weak dollar. This country is in bad shape and those 2 metals represent the fall of the dollar and people's fear. If and when the dollar turns and goes higher as well as our government dealing with the debt issue, yeah right, these metal values will drop. WHo know when. Just be careful and don't load the boat up here. It pays ot always trickle out or flip on the way up and accumulate on the way down. Buy low, sell high. It works. I sold another $50 in face over the weekend at 32.5 times. Good luck.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There is actually one factor that you have all over looked. The buying power of the U.S Dollar. The weaker the dollar gets the more expensive everything gets. Oil is not getting more expensive...the dollar is getting weaker so it is taking more dollars to buy the same amount of oil. Same with the silver. Wonder why prices of gas and silver have almost doubled? You can thank the Federal Reserve for almost doubling the number of U.S dollars in circulation in the last 4 years.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2651 Posts |
Ha...well look like someone beat me to it by 2 minutes..lol good point monkey! lol
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2651 Posts |
Willy- I had people telling me to sell silver at $25/oz because it will never get any higher than that...further more my dad has been buying gold for over 4 years. He had people telling him to sell..I forget what it was at back then but it has more than doubled.
Gold and silver will fluctuate but I it isn't going to have a severe drop. Gold and Silver always hold their value...because they do not corrode...and they are limited. If you take all of the gold that has ever been mined in the world you only would be able to fill 2 olympic sized swimming pools...
I suppose if someone found a mine that had a olympic sized swiming pool size of gold it would drop considerably but I am not going to bet on that...
Im buyin...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6326 Posts |
Ahhh........ Let the gambling begin ! .......  Some will lose and lose ROYALLY......some will win and win BIG.... which one will each of us be ? ........ THAT is the real million dollar question ! ..... 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
I think he was referring to a rise in the prices of copper and nickel coins because of collectors of silver coins being pushed out by the high silver prices and turning instead to the base metal coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
672 Posts |
The dollars value is depreciating, I don't think anyone can argue it has not, but the fact is that it has not lost over half its value in 12 months even by the worst estimates (as silver has doubled). I think silver will fall, will it be 7$ an ounce again... Nope... but I do think that there is a lot of fear in the market driving the prices though. And buying something on fear is never a good thing. Do I own silver... Yes... do I think it has intrinsic value that can never be taken away... Yes... will I get rich off it, nope. I view it as a hedge bet, not the main bet.
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Valued Member
 United States
309 Posts |
That's exactly what I meant condor. Less worried about what silver is doing, you know?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Did he give a reason? Only that there are extensive rumors floating aroung about companies holding back production of Gold and Silver to aquire the highest prices. Eventually they all will start re-releasing those and the ball will start rolling where other companies will do the same so as not to be stuck with large quantities. This is sort of like Diamonds where there are really a lot of them today and many can now be produced. But a certain organization is holding back massive distributing of them. According to this guy, who usually appears to know stuff since he makes a real lot of money, the fall is coming and sooner than people think. Such might be the reason for coin dealers to be slowing down on purchases.
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Valued Member
 United States
309 Posts |
hey Carl... The fall is coming? There are very few that predict a fall in pm prices. Do you think these prices are really that "inflated"? Welcome to your thoughts.
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New Member
United States
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I'll be surprised if the sharp rise in both gold and silver doesn't create a new 'floor' for their values that is quite a bit above pre-2009 levels. It's hard for that NOT to happen, because even if the price per ounce falls below $35.00, people will see that as a 'buy' opportunity and continue to keep it propped up. Only something dramatic or major would cause a significant panic drop at this point.
However, for those of us that don't have a lot of $$$ to invest (or risk) at one time...it has been an interesting ride. I've sold AG - G examples of a lot of silver coins for quite a bit more than they were worth and have been able to purchase much nicer examples of the same coins for just a small premium above those amounts. Along the way, I've used a similar approach to what MonkeyMan suggested to buy low and sell higher as the prices have risen...without ever holding a large amount or putting myself at great risk. Some people may be able to afford losing $1000.00 here and $1000.00 there with investment risks. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them.
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