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Valued Member
Guatemala
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I never said you had to admit to the long term weight approach. It's just not possible to prove it was ever done, and it's a very good way of salvaging a bill that really should grade better. It won't alter circulation damage, but it can do wonders for damage caused by humidity, or some careless handling.
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United States
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I liken it to some of the debates I read in the coin forum where someone will ask a question like, "is it OK to clean a coin with soap and water to get the dirt off?" The answers are like "NO! Never clean a coin it may damage it and lower the value." Really? Damage a coin that has been circulated for 80 years by washing the dirt off?  |
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United States
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Nice bill, I would agree with the do not clean a coin, be it 80 years old or not, there is a very noticeable difference between circulated wear and a cleaned coin, forensically speaking, one is because the coin was carried around, the other is a deliberate act which shows up once looked at........A cleaned coin can be detected by an experienced person very easily....
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United States
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And therein lies my point about pressing notes. People feel the same way you do about altering the condition of a note. It's not the same level of passion as the whole cleaning coin issue, but it is an issue to some. I don't subscribe to it as I said earlier, just as I believe "cleaning" a coin involves more than just a little soapy H2O.
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CRUDE BUT EFFECTIVE OK guys here's an update after taking the bed frame pressure idea and extrapolating it into a more controlled environment. I have attached photos of my vice grip pressing down upon two wooden 8" - 2 x 4s which are squeezing a 1.5" thick paper-bound text book which contains the Hawaiian note. Compare these recent photos with the original one taken only a couple of weeks ago. I really tightened the vice up as much as I could and it appears to have even diminished the previously very obvious center fold crease. Assuming the entire bill looks like these new photos what do you think the grade would be on this bill now? My camera's focus capabilities will not allow me to take a full length photo while simultaneously displaying the applicable details. Thanks for the ideas to ignite my endeavor.     |
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United States
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I sort of like the way it looks, and if no one can tell it's been pressed has it been pressed ?  . The Bill Collector |
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Guatemala
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I'd have to see more pics to say, but I wouldn't rule out a solid XF or an AU, though, to be safe with the wavy effect you had, I'd give it longer than two weeks of high pressure. Time is as important as pressure, when you're pressing a note.
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05/11/2011 11:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1285 Posts |
Nice job.
FWIW -- The fold running through the portrait is permanent (forehead area) (Break in paper) and nothing can be done.
This should be an education for everyone to see these subtle difference when dealing with older notes.
Thanks for sharing.
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05/12/2011 08:06 am
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Valued Member
United States
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spray it with sizing. amazing results the corners become nice and crisp!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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For those who are going to ask what sizing is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SizingI would recommend to NOT use anything on a collectible note. If anyone felt the need to experiment, do so on some old worthless $1 note. |
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United States
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You ruined it when you pressed it, lost 1/3 it's value. Bummer.
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United States
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You ruined it when you pressed it, lost 1/3 it's value. Bummer. Not really as this method is accepted by collectors. Ironing is NOT accepted and easy to detect. |
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United States
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You ruined it when you pressed it, lost 1/3 it's value. Bummer. I'm curious what method you would use to determine when a note has been "pressed" or not? |
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United States
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You can tell that it has been pressed by the fold lines that still exist. That being said, the last time I was at a show with a paper currency dealer he was selling a pressed Hawaii in either VF+ or XF+ Condition for $60. I'd have to check my notes on that one.
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07/10/2011 10:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Is anyone else here aware of the fact that just storing a note in a flat condition such as a top loading clear holder "presses" the folds out of it over time?
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