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1943/44 Copper. 43's Everyehere

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 Posted 05/20/2011  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
I'm sorry if you ever felt offended but if you have read the rules, it says that opinions that are made by members are just that, opinions. my opinion was that it is highly unlikely that you would ever find 2 S VDBs, a 14D, and a coin that doesn't exist. and I explain how it isn't possible for that to be made. whats offending about that? I never said it in a tone, I just emphasized the word highly. Usually when a member comes on here that is newer, and posts an extraordinary post about finding rare coins and errors, we doubt, because 99% of the time, there's no picture, no evidence except for a family story about their long lost grandfather or something, and no reasoning, and when you said S VDBs, a 14D, and a 22 weak S found metal detecting, were going to doubt. how can we not doubt? that's at least $3000 in coins there. found metal detecting! so, we wanted answers.

i hope you rethink your moving to another forum, and I am sorry you were offended.
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 Posted 05/20/2011  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
RPeternell -

I looked at your original picture postings and then again at your new one, and, I'm sorry, but I don't see any NEW pictures (of different coins). Perhaps you could enlighten us all a little bit more on what you are seeing? Do not take this the wrong way. I am a scientist, and I always look for the evidence and invite open discussion. In this case, you have provided photos, but in order for all of us to assist you, we need to have some more information. As a resource in the meantime, I suggest you seek out www.coppercoins.com.

Please do not be offended by any of the comments you might have felt were in a bad tone. But in the words of Carl Sagan, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". You, in my opinion, have some extraordinary claims:

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2 1909 s vdb's, 1914 d, 1922 weak s, and my favorite. The 1943/44 copper penny.

We would like to help and assist you in the next step.
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 Posted 05/20/2011  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I'm afraid he is letting his imagination run away with him on the 1944 cent. I don't see a 43 in any of the places he is saying they are at. And why would there be half a dozen 43's all over a 1944 cent? Can't say anything about any of the other coins he says he found because he hasn't shown any of them He might have found them. After all once they were made they had to go somewhere.


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It's sad the morals people have nowadays, makes me sick

We have bad morals because we don't see the same things he does and we say so?


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Yes the coin has the strikings on the reverse also. So, it was jambed and got beat to death. It's always possible that the machine had the markings on the press and needed replaced!

Clearly he does not know anything about how coins are struck.


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All I asked for was a little advise!

You just want advice? OK, don't bother with the 1944 because it is nothing. Any advice on the other coins will have to wait until after you have posted pictures of them. And this is one of the best forums for getting advice.


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I will move on to a more adult area! Bye!

Good luck getting advice on the adult forums.
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 Posted 05/20/2011  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
And, I hope our natural skepticism doesn't come across negatively, because this is a friendly forum after all.

If anyone discovered a genuine Lincoln overdate, they would sure get our congratulations! Naturally, there is a difference between finding a coin with odd marks, and conclusively proving it an overdate on a Lincoln Cent. That's not "debunking"; it's just curiosity and common sense.
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 Posted 05/20/2011  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
If anyone thinks that any of the replies posted so far have been harsh, then you must have some really thin skin or you haven't been on the World Wide Web for very long. I see nothing wrong with any of the posts and to be perfectly honest, RPeternell's first post was quite confusing and the provided pics were even more confusing. This forum is about as family-friendly as you can find. If you want to see the proverbial flip side of the coin, go hang out at the PCGS Collectors Universe forum for a while- you will learn the true meaning of flaming over there...

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 Posted 05/20/2011  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drewmiller86 to your friends list
Welcome RPeternell

Just looks like a regular 1944 Wheat penny to me.
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 Posted 05/21/2011  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RPeternell to your friends list


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A badly worn coin but still readable. Since ya'll don't believe what I have found I will post them as soon as I get them into the computer.
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 Posted 05/21/2011  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
Looks like a 44 over a 33 to me!

However, the 33 (or X3) below the 44 is just our eyes playing tricks on us. There are examples here of repunched mintmarks (RPM), http://www.lincolncentresource.com/RPMS/RPMS.html, and doubled dies, http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...bledies.html.

What you have is interesting, but I don't think it has any numismatic value. Others may have their own opinion, though.
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 Posted 05/21/2011  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseeker to your friends list
Welcome back RPeternell. Lots of environmental damage to this coin. It's obviously spent a lot of time taking a "dirt bath". With a little imagination I can see what appears to you to be an S mint mark however, since no cents were ever struck at the San Francisco mint in 1922, the dies were never made and that makes it an impossibility. Sometimes our eyes can play tricks on us.
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 Posted 05/21/2011  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
That's supposed to be a 1922? Looks like a 1944 to me!
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 Posted 05/21/2011  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
I am still confused. Mr. Peternell is thi you 1922, 1943/44 or one of your 1909 SVDB's. I am not being a jerk I just still have no idea at what I am supposed to be looking?

Regards Sir.
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 Posted 05/22/2011  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseeker to your friends list
I believe it's the coin he referred to in his original post as a "1922 weak s"
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 Posted 05/22/2011  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I don't see anything but an imagination running wild.They eyes sometimes makes us believe where is something there when there isn't. (Not just on this coin, many other posts proport to be something) When digits/mint marks other anomilies are found if they are not the normal size as the device, it isn't anything. When die scratches are stronger than a anolomy, it is nothing. When you rorate the coin and it disappears because of change of the light source, it is nothing. Out minds try to put to use data we give it. Look for the varieties that jump out at you and not one that you have to spend a lot of time finding. Your collecting will be more enjoyable.
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 Posted 05/22/2011  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
coop - well said. And I love that frorse...
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 Posted 05/22/2011  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinseeker to your friends list
I think it's an equinog
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