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I Am Troubled By This Coin!!?

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 Posted 10/30/2006  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list
It's not in a slab? If I had a 7K coin, it'd be in a slab.
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 Posted 10/30/2006  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeMaster to your friends list
It actually is in a slab. Check the ebay link.
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 Posted 10/30/2006  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
NCS slab since the enviromental damage will body-bag the coin with NGC yet still authenticates the coin as real.
I don't collect the series so I have noidea what the 'enviromental damage' problem is with the coin, but I do know the guys at Collector-USA and they are real straight shooters (Dale Evans was a PCGS grader). I have bought from them in the past and they have been honest with their grades (they guarentee any raw coin they sell will meet or exceed their grade at pcgs or ngc).
If I had an interest in this particular coin, I would give them a call at the number provided in the auction and ask them what the story is. Full return offered, too.
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10/30/2006 10:36 pm
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 Posted 10/30/2006  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I agree that the guys at collectors-USA are straight shooters and if they say something is one thing they are usually pretty positive that is what it is, and they stand behind their products just in case they were wrong. I would not hesitate to buy a high dollar coin from them if they had one I was looking for raw or slabbed
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 Posted 10/31/2006  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
What is troubling about it? Other than the impaired luster (enviro dmg) it is a nice coin in an issue of only ~12,000 mintage.
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 Posted 10/31/2006  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
WOW. That made me think. I've bought 4 cars in the last several years for a total of $6,945. I still have all of them a few others. I think I'd rather have the cars than one coin. Two of the cars are converts so on a nice day it's fun to cruse around in a convert. Can't do that with a coin.
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 Posted 10/31/2006  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list
I'm just a humble retired teacher. The value of that coin probably equals the value of my coin collection. Nice to be able to see one even if I can't afford it.

Carl, I know what you mean about convertibles. Wish I had kept my 1968 Mustang. Well, the wife has a convertible. Guess I can borrow it once in a while. At least when spring rolls around.
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 Posted 10/31/2006  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
he only convertible I own is the 2000 corvette the other 7 cars in my collection is hard tops but I doubt my coin collection is ever going to be worth what my car collection is worth
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 Posted 10/31/2006  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeMaster to your friends list
Look at the rim. The depth of the rim dish.


quote:
Originally posted by biokemist6

What is troubling about it? Other than the impaired luster (enviro dmg) it is a nice coin in an issue of only ~12,000 mintage.

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 Posted 10/31/2006  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Bryan1315

I agree that the guys at collectors-USA are straight shooters and if they say something is one thing they are usually pretty positive that is what it is, and they stand behind their products just in case they were wrong. I would not hesitate to buy a high dollar coin from them if they had one I was looking for raw or slabbed


I agree, I have bought from this seller many times and have had zero problems and most of their coins are fairly priced.
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 Posted 10/31/2006  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
[quote]Originally posted by TypeMaster

Look at the rim. The depth of the rim dish.


I take it you mean the rim depth is wrong, but I think it might be the photo angle of the coin in the slab. Is that it?
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 Posted 10/31/2006  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeMaster to your friends list
The depth is too deep. Also the relation of the denticles to the rim. The rim is also too thin. There should almost be a fold over of the denticles and the rim.

You may be correct as far as the photograph goes, but I begin grading any coin with the rim. The rim will almost never misrepresent the coin.

It may just be me, but when I saw this coin I could almost feel the sharpness of the rim "cutting" my fingers as I mentally handled it.

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Originally posted by hadleydog

[quote]Originally posted by TypeMaster

Look at the rim. The depth of the rim dish.


I take it you mean the rim depth is wrong, but I think it might be the photo angle of the coin in the slab. Is that it?

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 Posted 11/01/2006  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
I sent them an email regarding this subject (specifically the rim depth and thickness, and the relationship of the denticles with the rim). Here is their response......
Bruce,
This is a genuine coin guaranteed by NGC. It is just the photo angle as you said. I actually had trouble seeing the environmental damage that they labeled. Hope this helps
Dan

From my experiences with these guys in the past, I would tend to believe that the coin is original. BTW, NGC does guarantee the authenticity in the NCS slab, just not the grade.
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 Posted 11/01/2006  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
In this specific case, I would guess that it's a photographic artifact. The seller is one of the best out there, both in terms of numismatic skill and business quality. If the price were right, I'd buy without hesitation, and I've bought from them before.
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 Posted 11/01/2006  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeMaster to your friends list
Excellent guys. I appreciate the efforts. I am just rather cynical by nature and this is especially true of high dollar coins.

I have look at 100's of photos of slabbed coins and had not been struck by this anomaly until I saw this one.

Again, thanks for the feedback and opinions!
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