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1958-D LWC Photos Inside... Is This PMD?

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 Posted 06/30/2011  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

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The reverse reminds me of an acid dipped coin in ways, but the lack of detail on high points in the hair and shoulder is interesting. I'm unqualified to figure this one out.


Could it be struck on a split planchet?
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 Posted 06/30/2011  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
IMO its not struck on a split planchet because you would see marks that look like a huge lamination in the fields.

i think this is genuinely struck on a thin planchet, the full rims and lack of detail point me towards it.
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 Posted 06/30/2011  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
And I think I see mint luster in protected areas, which would be absent on an acid coin.
This is one for the error guys to see.
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 Posted 06/30/2011  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wild Bill to your friends list
I think the weight would eliminate a lot of questions....

If the coin is under weight, I would lean towards PMD, but it is tough to figure out with incomplete information.....sorry

I'll bookmark to see where this ends up....thanks

But if I had to guess, the obverse looks to be greased with the reverse greased and worn die, that's if the coin weighs out.



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 Posted 06/30/2011  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
And look at the reverse opposite the shoulder and head--the strike is very weak.
It's almost like there was not enough metal/pressure to strike up all the details.
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 Posted 06/30/2011  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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IMO its not struck on a split planchet because you would see marks that look like a huge lamination in the fields.

i think this is genuinely struck on a thin planchet, the full rims and lack of detail point me towards it.


Adam gets the gold star, very well reasoned The rim is initially formed during the upsetting process before the coin is struck, an underweight planchet with an appropriate diameter will still have rims but they will not be quite as strong as the rims of a normal coin. There is still a significant amount of mint Red on the coin which means that this one has to be at least high AU. Based on the provided pics, I would estimate that this coin could weigh 2-2.4 grams.

I found a thin planchet 1954-D wheatie in a bulk bag a couple years, it was not nearly as weak as this one but I did find it strictly by the sound it made. Mine weighs 2.7 grams(the 53-D is normal for comparison) but IMO, the 58-D is a much nicer example of a thin planchet

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 Posted 07/25/2011  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
It's taken me awhile, but I finally have the weight results. 2.0 grams

My thanks to everyone for all of the input!
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 Posted 07/25/2011  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
As John1 said, this cent was struck on a split-before-strike planchet. The characteristic striations can be seen on the reverse face, where they haven't been effaced by the strike.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
Ok...as of now...this discussion has gone well above my pay grade when it comes to error coins...

In laymans terms, someone needs to explain to me the difference between a thin-planchet, and a split-planchet.

Keep it simple please...I manufacture prescription opthalmic lenses for a living. Roll-searching and coin collecting is only my hobby.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
A split planchet is a lamination on a grand scale- the planchet literally splits into two pieces. It can split before or after striking, yours split prior to striking.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list

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A split planchet is a lamination on a grand scale- the planchet literally splits into two pieces. It can split before or after striking, yours split prior to striking.


Thank you biokemist6. It makes sense now... Very much appreciated.
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 Posted 07/26/2011  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Congratulations Scotty11! You've made my image collection:
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 Posted 07/26/2011  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
Thanks Coop! I'm honored!
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1958-D-LWC--Photos-Inside...--Is-This-PMD?

1958-D-LWC--Photos-Inside...--Is-This-PMD?

This coin has been driving me crazy! The thing has been sitting on my desk, inside a 2x2 flip for over 6 months now. My local coin dealer tells me it's a "thin-planchet". Is that the same thing as a "split-before-strike"?

It'll cost me upwards of $50 to have it slabbed. I'm not sure if I found it inside a bank box, or it was one I found inside one of the wheat bags that I've bought. Either way, I paid less than a nickel for it.

My question is...

Is it worth the cost of having it slabbed?
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 Posted 01/13/2012  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list
I would be interested in this coin indeed.
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