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Ebay Sellers Make Your Blood Boil?

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 Posted 11/17/2006  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list
As OldDan says, get over it and move on

I used to let this kind of stuff bother me to the point of rage. I think I've finally learned to just ignore it all, and buy ONLY from sellers who seem to know what they're doing, and who advertise their items honestly. That's probably why I don't bid on very much at ebay anymore

Shipping charges too high? Don't bid on that seller's stuff. Obvious "stock" photos of something other than what is being auctioned? Don't bid on that seller's stuff. Item listed in the wrong category? C'mon, everybody around here is human and therefore prone to the occasional error.

None of it is worth wasting precious moments of your life on.
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 Posted 11/17/2006  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
I'm with thundercoin, I just factor shipping into the equation and look at the bottom line. I'm certainly not going to let shipping keep me from a good overall deal. Having said that, I also do like crystal64 and let sellers know if a prohibitive shipping fee keeps me from buying/bidding on a coin.
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11/17/2006 7:10 pm
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 Posted 11/17/2006  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
I was fed up with buying parfume and bras for my wife on my ebay account
So I set up her own ebay account
First buy last week was allready a cheating deceiver
First I got an account number but no name by private mail
Then I got a name and transferred the money
When I marked my ebay as paid I got a complete different name for the account
No answers to emails
So I started complaining to ebay and got the standard message
Say you do not want to buy any more ( but I allready paid )
Get the phone number from a phone book and phone etc

I told the perfume jokeress I was going to file non delivering vendor
and immidiately I got several emails saying the package was in the mail and she did not understand what I was saying and I was an uneducated newby etc

I told her I got more then 100 positive feedbacks and I had been defrauded once and once was enough
She answered immidiately she did not understand what I was saying

So she is going to get a negative for trying to confuse obfuscate anger and defraud me
So my wife is going to get a revenge negative very shortly
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 Posted 11/17/2006  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add janknez to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by OldDan

Just admit that there are jerks in this old world and go on about your business on other listings. Don't give the guy the satisfaction of calling his/her attention to what ever it is that makes you boil. Who cares? Go on about your business and look elsewhere.



Well, I do, Old Dan -- and all of you who responded to this. I am not losing sleep over it. Sometimes I get annoyed, especially if it's something I think I would want to buy under other circumstances, but mostly it just makes me shake my head. Sometimes it makes me laugh. But whatever, I get over it in no time.

I'm thinking about selling on ebay next year, and I do plan to be a model seller, never making any mistakes and always telling the truth. Well, at least I'll use good pictures.



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 Posted 11/17/2006  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sharktoy to your friends list
I have recently sold a coin to a coin member here and he gave me a great feedback but emailed me to let me know he did not like the way I packaged. I was so happy to hear someone's true feelings on it that I now double wrap my ebay items . He was very nice to give me a postive feedback also. Thanks!
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 Posted 11/17/2006  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list
eBay, hmmm, where do I start. Well, I can start here I guess, I received only my 4th negative feedback today from another unscrupulous seller. Yet, he left me a positive a couple days before that for another item I bought off of him. I filed a dispute because he didn't send the other item I bought and paid for and he wouldn't return my e-mail requesting the item. So now, I have been on ebay 7 years and have 4 negatives from people who tried to rip me off. ebay won't do anything about it. They won't remove the negative unless I pay their Square Trade mediator $29.95 to contact his bum and get the negative removed or have the mediator look at all the evidence and remove it themselves. I got a negative because someone didn't follow through on what they said they were going to do. Where is the reasoning in all of this? I detest ebay for not doing more to protect the people who depend on them for a safe decent place to buy online but protect the bums who are ripping people off all in the name of fees. Yes, he is a powerseller with 17,000+ feedback and 250 negatives but when someone like him admits he is wrong by first leaving me positive for one transaction and then a negative after I file a complaint and after he refunds my money then there is obviously retaliation going on but ebay refuses to help. I am so sick of ebay, I hope they go out of business.

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 Posted 11/17/2006  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list
I have to disagree on the stock photo issue. As a seller (and photographer) it is way easier to use a stock photo unless you are selling an expensive or unique coin.

If Shipping is clearly stated then don't complain. ebay sellers SHOULD be able to recover some or all ebay fees in shipping and HANDLING, even though it's against ebay policy, but it isn't against ebay policy to make a profit on S&H?.
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 Posted 11/17/2006  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Errorcoins

I have to disagree on the stock photo issue. As a seller (and photographer) it is way easier to use a stock photo unless you are selling an expensive or unique coin.

If Shipping is clearly stated then don't complain. ebay sellers SHOULD be able to recover some or all ebay fees in shipping and HANDLING, even though it's against ebay policy, but it isn't against ebay policy to make a profit on S&H?.



If you say you're using a stock photo, I won't buy from you. If I buy and find out later you used a stock photo, I will return the coin. Like most people, I buy based on what I see in the auction, and I expect to receive what I saw.

As a seller, I wouldn't consider not picturing the actual item being sold. Now, I can imagine certain commodity-type coins, or large lots, for which I'd make an exception, both as a buyer and a seller, but not very frequently.
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 Posted 11/20/2006  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noxx to your friends list
All these are reasons I only "troll" ebay for moderately priced coins. It's a great resource, but if I'm goin to lay out real money, the security just isn't there.
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 Posted 11/20/2006  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Noxx

All these are reasons I only "troll" ebay for moderately priced coins. It's a great resource, but if I'm goin to lay out real money, the security just isn't there.



The security is there for americans because they can go to small claims court in the city they live in to file for free against anybody living in any other city of the US
As a european however the cops just filed the report , confirmed at least 12 others were defrauded and that was IT for me

Nowadays I only buy from people in driving distance whose language I speak
I have had to telephone 6 or 7 times to tell them I was not going to take it lying down and all saw the light
It helps of course that I carefully analyse their feedback and the way it is phrased
If I give a positive feedback saying one word "ok" it really means I was very unhappy but did not want a revenge neg
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 Posted 11/20/2006  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add houston_guy462004 to your friends list
Buy from sellers who have at least 1,000 feesdbacks with 99.5% of them positive. Check the shipping cost before bidding. Always look at the photo of the coin. If it feels like a gyp, don't bid. As someone else said, no coin is now uniquely for sale --- as before the advent of ebay --- and the desired coin can almost always be found offered by as reputable ebay seller (who should e added to the list of favorite sellers). There will always be jerks and nerds buying and selling.
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 Posted 11/20/2006  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
I don't get me knickers in a knot anymore with sellers on the 'bay, it's become a real jungle and ebay doesn't seem to care so long as they pay their fees.
High shipping charges? Pass, and I don't wanna hear no stories about gas and time and bubble mailers.
Stock photo? Pass.....I wanna see the coins I'm bidding on. Period.
No returns? Pass, no exceptions.
Private auctions? Pass.........shill bid city.
Hidden seller feedback? Pass.
Item location.... China? Yea, right. Pass.
Poor feedback? Pass.

The 'bay is not what it used to be, but with a little caution it is still a decent resource.
JMHO.
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 Posted 11/20/2006  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Noxx to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by houston_guy462004

Buy from sellers who have at least 1,000 feesdbacks with 99.5% of them positive. Check the shipping cost before bidding. Always look at the photo of the coin. If it feels like a gyp, don't bid. As someone else said, no coin is now uniquely for sale --- as before the advent of ebay --- and the desired coin can almost always be found offered by as reputable ebay seller (who should e added to the list of favorite sellers). There will always be jerks and nerds buying and selling.



In the future I would appreciate it if you didn't use the term "gyp". Most people don't realize it, but it's derogative of the Rom, the gypsies, the same as saying "jewed down" is to jews like myself. Just a little cultural heads up there.
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 Posted 11/20/2006  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
Yes it is important to be politically correct
I am pollitically challenged since all that nonsense makes me
go whacky
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 Posted 11/20/2006  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add houston_guy462004 to your friends list
Thanks for the "cultural heads up." As an amateur linguist, I should have known better than to use the word "gyp," and certainly apologize to all the roving gypsies in the United States in 2006. I have review my "politically correct" terms, which go back as far as a 1793 Supreme Court case [Chisholm v Georgia], in whiich the Court notes that the expression "PEOPLE of the United States" is politically incorrect because the United STATES consists of STATES. I will also, henceforth, use the term "maintenance cover" instead of "manhole cover" if the occasion arises. Let's also avoid conventional grammar and clutter up out sentences with "he or she," "his or her," and "him or her" rather than the exclusive masculine gender --- which I am sure will draw criticism from homosexual persons (or "gays" vs "s**tstabbers) or transgendered persons. Our language goes through cycles. The "N" word became Negro, then Black, then Afro-American. The word "cripple" became "handicapped," then "disabled" to "differently abled." I do agree, however, that "gyp" was as inappropriate as "jew down."
Just an interesting footnote that has nothing to do with numismatics.
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