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"When The Dollar Fails"

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 Posted 07/30/2011  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list
We should all be prepared for any possibility.

Gold and silver are UNIVERSAL forms of payment. They are better than mastercard, because they truly are 'accepted everywhere.'
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 Posted 07/30/2011  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rbethell11 to your friends list
mitchhailey I've already given you numerous situations where gold and silver have no value
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 Posted 07/30/2011  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list
I have a nice low mileage Z06 Corvette. In a Mad Max scenario this car would definitely outrun all of those bad guys roaming and scavenging. Would I sell it for gold or silver? Absolutely.
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 Posted 07/30/2011  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list
Most of these "Armageddon" scenarios I read presuppose an "Event" that takes place in a day or a week causing institutions to topple suddenly and violently.

I do see this happening to the dollar, our political system, and society, BUT I see it happening more slowly, bit by torturous bit. The Event is happening now already, but like the frog in the hot water brought to boil, most folks are not noticing it
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 Posted 07/30/2011  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
I agree, Piffin. Events like this are so obvious in hindsight but at the time take on the appearance of slow-motion train wrecks.

I don't believe that the US dollar will fail but that it will be devalued, either voluntarily by the US government or involuntarily by the world markets. It could lose its world reserve currency status and be replaced by a basket of other currencies. A basket currency would be more stable and less prone to being devalued. For lack of a better example, the G8 countries plus a couple of others could be included in the basket. One advantage to this is that it prevents any one country from unlimited currency printing. While such a limitation might be hard in the short term on countries that do print lots of currency, it would be a stabilizing influence on world markets in the longer term.

I am not happy about having a devalued US dollar, not by any means. I can recognize the possibility, though, and take whatever steps seem prudent to protect myself and my family from the worst of whatever financial problems result.
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 Posted 07/30/2011  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list
I don't know why everyone is so fast to say in bad times even gold is not good.

Back in the 1930's even normal everyday Americans knew the difference between the dollar and gold.

One of the biggest problems Roosevelt faced was that a large number of people had lost confidence in paper money and were going to their banks to exchange their money for gold.


By 1933, the U.S. was in big trouble and people all over the country were trading in their dollars for gold.
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07/30/2011 8:07 pm
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 Posted 07/31/2011  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list
...and then Roosevelt confiscated their gold
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 Posted 07/31/2011  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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I don't know why everyone is so fast to say in bad times even gold is not good.

Hey, MK, I'm someone and I'm not saying that!
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 Posted 07/31/2011  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
I laughed yesterday when I heard a NY mint RADIO commercial, and they say, and I am para phrasing here from memory...."Act now as an entire new case of American un-circulated gold coins form the US was just found in Germany, dates 1866 through 1933."

The gal on the commercial went on to say...."In 1933 after the depression, many turned to gold instead of the dollar to such a great limit, that the president of the time (Roosevelt) passed an act to confiscate every one's gold. Call now and order your FREE CD and brochure and get some of these coins while they last, first come first serve basis"

I figured this is just a big market ploy to sell some gold the NY mint already had, for a ridiculous high premium, any thoughts?
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07/31/2011 3:19 pm
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 Posted 07/31/2011  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list
yeah bad choice of a word - some people. :)
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 Posted 08/04/2011  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
OP is missing that a failure of the dollar so gold is $10,000 an ounce also means $20 a gallon gas, etc. There will be no shortage of buyers because everyone will have stacks of $100 bills.
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 Posted 08/04/2011  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Were those bomb shelters from the cold war filled with gold?



During WWII, every pilot's kit included a few gold coins. Gold was a universal bribe, and saved many a pilot's life.
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 Posted 08/04/2011  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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who cares if the dollar fails


First, you neded to understand what it means to say "dollar fails".

A currency fails if people no longer are willing to accept it in exchange for goods or services. In US history, a couple examples were "not worth a" Continental currency and Confederate notes. It would take a bucketful of either to buy simple things like bread, meats, or animals.

The FRN has already failed, since it now takes about 50 times as many to buy what one would have bought 50 years ago. Most people would only realize how worthless FRNs are if they saw a faster and more visible failure, like prices doubling or tripling in a year.

The point of holding PM is that an ounce of gold will buy as much "stuff" years down the road as it does today. It is also a good idea to have "stuff", like food, clothing and bullets, except for one catch: shelf life.

Check your beans, or even your water, and it has an expiration date. A cellar full of food is only good until it's not fit to eat. PM has no expiration date, and can still be traded after clothing deteriorates, even from sitting in a closet.
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 Posted 08/04/2011  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Most people would only realize how worthless FRNs are if they saw a faster and more visible failure, like prices doubling or tripling in a year.

With a few more years of Bernanke, they might very well get that opportunity.
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 Posted 08/05/2011  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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an entire new case of American un-circulated gold coins form the US was just found in Germany, dates 1866 through 1933


We found them over on the shelf where we put them last week.

Dibs on the 33s. Wonder how many gold coin make a new case, and how many used to be in the old case? And how exactly do they "form the US".


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I figured this is just a big market ploy to sell some gold the NY mint already had, for a ridiculous high premium, any thoughts?


is the NY Mint? Philadelphia after a heckuva bender? These places don't "already have" anything. They either buy for a promo like this, or buy as needed. You can bet you're right on the big premium.
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