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Gold Rapidly Approaching New High

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 Posted 07/30/2011  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list
Yeah after looking at some charts of GDX its already corrected down some...so now I'm looking more at buying puts in GLD if it spikes up some. Miners got hit already I guess.
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 Posted 07/31/2011  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

This next week or 2 will set the direction and amount of change in PM, I think. And no one really knows which it will go, so I will wait and see. Tomorrow night's asian market will give an indication of direction. I think your S&P short play will be interesting. Even with a rating reduction, I still think that most of the Euro countries will be harder hit than the US. Not a popular thesis, but IMO :) I would be lean on GLD puts until you see movement or a large increase in selling of GLD. Getting caught in a $20+ rise in gold would hurt.
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 Posted 07/31/2011  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Well it looks like the 536 blind mice have decided to raise the debt 2.4 trillion, 1 now and 1.4 in a half year or so. Now then, was that so hard, draw up your little plan and agree on the small fry stuff, and sign the papers. I will have to really laugh, if it falls through however at the last minute....

See, I predicted the future. I think I will get me a crystal ball down at Eddy's trick shop, an open myself up a Silver Hawk fortune teller shop, payments only excepted in gold and silver....

Of Course me predicting they would raise the debt ceiling at the last minute, is kinda like me predicting that day will break tomorrow around 6 A.M....

http://news.yahoo.com/stab-debt-lim...4034740.html
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07/31/2011 02:11 am
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 Posted 07/31/2011  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list
Yeah, they're gong to cut spending by 917 billion. They will spend the same at the Federal level and make the States cover more of Medicare, Social Security, and hundreds of other Federal mandates.
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 Posted 07/31/2011  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list

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I think your S&P short play will be interesting. Even with a rating reduction, I still think that most of the Euro countries will be harder hit than the US. Not a popular thesis, but IMO :)


I guess Dennis Gartman seems to think the same, he's recommending shorting the EUR vs just about any currency including the USD.

Yeah I've recovered a lot of my losses in SDS this last week, one more good down day and I'll be back to even. I was way too early with that trade, but I was going on vacation and wanted down side protection.
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07/31/2011 09:04 am
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 Posted 07/31/2011  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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They will spend the same at the Federal level and make the States cover more of Medicare, Social Security, and hundreds of other Federal mandates.

Well, good luck with that! Most of the states are in pretty crummy financial shape too... and, unlike the feds, they do not have a printing press handy. If the states don't have it, they CAN'T pay it whether the feds mandate it or not.

As to the debt deal... the result that seems to be coming out of all the squealing and yowling is about as most of us on here suspected... lots of sound and fury signifying nothing. If this is the best that they can do at reducing our huge budget deficit and addressing the national debt, we are well and truly done. Just stick a fork in us and be done with it!

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 Posted 07/31/2011  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list
Gold opening down @ 1617 currently. Expecting all will be OK ?

Also the USD is up and the euro down
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07/31/2011 6:21 pm
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 Posted 07/31/2011  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list
IMHO I still don't see an agreement happening by the Tuesday dead line, even though it looks like the S&P futures seem optimistic about it getting done. Call me a pessimist I guess.
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 Posted 07/31/2011  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

Yes, the Dow premarket early this morning was down over 150, now it is up 150. Guess congress are getting their orders in line, as we can't help but suspect that many have news that hasn't readily been shared with us. We will see, as I agree personally with you, I do think that something is firm enough for the futures to react like this. Tomorrow will be an interesting US opening :)
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 Posted 07/31/2011  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list
I'm kind of thinking the positive talk coming from the Dems is an effort to make the Rebs look bad when they don't pass the bill returned to the House at the last minute. Its all about who gets the blame. I don't know maybe I'm way off here but that's my gut feeling.
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I agree GoThunder. It's about time our leader started leading.
Gold will continue to climb, at least right now.
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 Posted 07/31/2011  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
According to this a plan is in place, minus a short coming on votes perhaps tom, which could still happen....

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-congres...3853348.html

I think the drop in the Asian market is obviously due to this new deal assuming again it goes through....

Like others here, I figure an immediate pull back in gold and silver if the deal goes through, but figue it will not take everyone long to realize we still have the same fundamental problems as before, just more debt to come now....

Fewer jobs in America, higher prices for food and everything else one needs to survive. The list of factors that plays into Pm's favor just goes on and on....
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 Posted 08/01/2011  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list

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My buddy says when Gold hits $1200 (which he thinks it will) he will jump in.


There is massive support at that level. Initial support is around mid 14's.

FWIW, I would not be initiating new positions at these levels unless you have been in gold for a while (a while = a few years) OR plan to buy regularly (dollar cost average). Take a long term chart (10 or more years) and start drawing lines with a ruler.

One thing for sure is that in the future gold is going to start swinging in either direction on a regular basis.
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 Posted 08/01/2011  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
I'd like to think that the US dollar will strengthen at some point but there just is not any evidence to support that at this time. Bernanke is clearly pursuing a weak dollar policy in order to reduce imports and increase exports. Unfortunately, this very same policy is doing serious damage to the savings of many Americans via inflation. The long run of very low interest rates has also financially damaged people who save and invest, rather than spend and consume. The income that they can get for their savings via bank savings accounts and CDs is pitiful these days.

We also have a spendthrift congress that has shown no money management skills whatever. They seem to think that going ever deeper into debt is OK and that paying off one credit card with another credit card is a viable way of running the financial business of the country.

The US economy was once a genuine powerhouse and the envy of the world. It produced high quality goods and services at an unparalleled pace and at reasonable prices. Over the past decade or so, however, the government has grown so large that it is literally consuming the nation. It's licenses, regulation, and taxes have stymied business to the point that many business people today do not believe that they can succeed here. This is why they are moving their businesses off-shore. They are going to other countries that welcome business and that treat it very well, indeed. As these people seek to capitalize on these opportunities, the US government seems incapable of understanding why they are going elsewhere and taking the jobs that they have with them.

None of this portends a bright future for the dollar, so PMs seem very much to be a viable way of protecting one's wealth from the inevitable inflation that all this fiat currency printing must cause at some point. While the government and the Fed consistently cook the books to show lower than actual unemployment and inflation, those of us who have to live in the real world are seeing the true results of government mismanagement in the market place each and every day.

The various websites that deal with these issues, such as https://www.shadowstats.com, show that annual US inflation is in the area of 10-11% and unemployment is in the area of 17-18%. My own personal experience is admittedly limited to the area where I live but what I am seeing locally does not support the official contentions for either unemployment or inflation.
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 Posted 08/01/2011  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list
Amen Ed.
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