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Oh, I know. I do see many out there. I am doing a VF-XF set so....it will probably be a nice mid VF, maybe an XF ;-)
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Actually Moe, the 1856 has a true mintage of 600! In subsequent years, they were "restruck" for collectors on the order of about 1600. Thus the wish for an MS rather than a PR, generally speaking the PR's are considered to be the restrikes.
And now Johnny has a great piece to barter when he meets a dealer with a nice MS piece!
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Quote: Actually Moe, the 1856 has a true mintage of 600! In subsequent years, they were "restruck" for collectors on the order of about 1600. Thus the wish for an MS rather than a PR, generally speaking the PR's are considered to be the restrikes.
And now Johnny has a great piece to barter when he meets a dealer with a nice MS piece! True. In general as a collectable, either the original pattern or later "restrike" is considered in the overall 1856 mintage and are priced more or less the same in a general sense....so together they make up the 2-3K mintage combined. I definitely would prefer the VF20 S-3(discussed previously in this thread) to my PR30. However, I would have had to pay a hefty premium. This PR30 coin I think I am getting a better deal on, and could realize a stronger profit if I resold it.
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I agree John, You did quite well on that coin. You paid at least $800 less then it's FMV IMO. Proofs have always been struck with the collector in mind, thus making the MS issues more desirable. Extremely rare any way you slice it!
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Thanks Dave! I got $100 back in ebay bucks too for that purchase! Too bad tomcollectables sold that VF-20. I would go back to his shop and see if he would trade me straight up for the PR30, since he's mentioned to me he doesn't care about the variety. 
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Yeah, I know. After examination, it was definitely an S-3. Hey, that PR30 is one heck of an incredible coin! I think eventually, you will bump into a dealer that has a VF S-3 that might be apt to trade as delaner said ;) I will keep an eye out for ya.
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The reality of this purchase hasn't really hit me yet. I don't think it will sink in until I actually have the coin in my shaky quivering hands...lol. This one will go straight to an SDB!
BTW Dave, I will keep my eyes peeled for a 09-s. There are some decent deals to be had on the bay.
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Awesome, thanks! We are partners...lol! I know the feeling, when I bought my Moffat & Co.$5, I had to pinch myself.
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Hey everyone thanks for sharing your knowledge on the 1856 , I learned quite a bit here !
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Quote: I know the feeling, when I bought my Moffat & Co.$5, I had to pinch myself. You'll get another one someday Dave! We also need to find you a Chain Cent! 
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A beat up S-5 (not a chain, but a wreath) sold on ebay today for under $400. I thought about putting in a bid, but decided not to. It was about the worst I've ever seen, G5 detail over AG3, but it looked like it had a bullet go into it's edge. A really NICE S-3 sold on Sunday for $7k - sounds like a lot, but imo it was a 9 - $12k coin at least. Must buy more lottery tickets.
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I would have paid $600 all day long minus the edge hit! Wow. Yeah, I've looked at some Wreath's but would rather get the moolah together for a Chain. I have seen a few PCGS FR02's lately...even these are selling for serious money. Not entirely out of my budget ;-) I would like SOME detail.
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