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Thanks guys I will stay away from this one...
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Bedrock of the Community
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You can see why it is graded by SGS.... ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would not go near it. That is a SEGS holder(a real TPG), not an SGS holder(illegitimate plastic clamshell) and yes- ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would have slabbed that coin. |
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Rest in Peace
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DVCollector, as a learning tool for me. How can you tell it was "damaged intentionally"? Also, who is SEGS? Not listed in the Glossary and a strange slab. I would assume a third grade grading system. If that is the correct terminology. Thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
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DVCollector, as a learning tool for me. How can you tell it was "damaged intentionally"? It's my opinion the hair detail on that coin was "helped", ie tooled poorly. Compare to an NGC "fine details".  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:That is a SEGS holder(a real TPG), not an SGS holder(illegitimate plastic clamshell) and yes- ANACS, NGC, and PCGS would have slabbed that coin.  Shows how much know about slabs. lol. I usually buy raw coins so let's just ignore everything I said.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Almost looks like something someone shot at with a shotgun a long time ago. They used to do that with shot shells in a revolver to make it appear they are fantastic shots.
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Valued Member
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it does look like its been shot.....
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Pillar of the Community
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I asked the seller for pictures of the holder and who graded the coin just to see what type of response I'll get. I'll post whatever his response is when/if I get one. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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would assume a third grade grading system. My mistake, TPG Third Party Grader  thanks Biokemist6 and DVCollector. |
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Valued Member
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I asked the seller for pictures of the holder and who graded the coin just to see what type of response I'll get. I'll post whatever his response is when/if I get one. We can only wait to see the response |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah, I'd stay away from that one. It's ugly and unattractive IMO.
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Pillar of the Community
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Does it say what type of edge it is?
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Pillar of the Community
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Oops, it said plain edge. Apologies.
So that would make it a S.76B. The diagnostics all look right so that would make the issue "retooling." Depending how crazy the bidding goes, or if people stay away, it might be an interesting buy. Who wouldn't want a 1795 LC, even a scudzy one?
Take it out of the slab, keep it in your pocket for a year or two and viola, the issues might disappear. Been done many times.
KK
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Bedrock of the Community
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I keep looking at the hair detail comparison pictures, and the conclusion I keep coming down to is that the SEGS hair looks right and NGC hair does not. this is in comparing them both to images in the Breen Early Cent Encyclopedia.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Then I ought to check more references--if only to sharpen my observational skills. Generally, when hair detail crosses an area where no other detail is present, it raises flags for me. I think of it as the difference between "believable wear" and "unbelievable detail"  On a finer point, I look at aesthetics, and whether they match the original. Here are a couple more pics for 1795 showing how the hair blends to nothing, vs isolated, defined strands continuing to the forehead. Certainly, the ebay coin isn't a better grade than these two.    Edited by DVCollector
08/22/2011 1:40 pm
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