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Moderator
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Quote: Why were they produced? To extract money from tourists.  These are "tourist copies", typical of the sorts of coins you can still find for sale in the street markets and tourist spots of Italy, Greece, Turkey, Syria and elsewhere in the Mediterranean world. No-one who is at all familiar with ancient coins would be fooled by them. These ones in particular are the wrong metal - while some later Roman and Greek coins were made of brass, no Archaic Period pieces were (like these purport to be). I think the pointy-bearded chap bottom right of bottom pic was copied from the satyr seen on the Naxos silver staters.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
 United States
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I had the same reaction when I saw then but my grandmother insisted they were real. I took them to a well known dealer to prove I was right, but no. He also said they were real, and seemed to be very knowledgeable about them. I guess I should sell them to him. :-) More opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: my grandmother insisted they were real. Unfortunately that has no bearing on the authenticity if she isn't an expert on coins. Quote: He also said they were real Did he offer to buy them? Did he provide any incite as to what they were? Quote: More opinions would be appreciated You are going to hear then same thing from multiple member Quote: These are "tourist copies", typical of the sorts of coins you can still find for sale in the street markets and tourist spots of Italy, This pretty much sums it up as Sap is one of the most knowledgeable members on foreign coins that we have.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can't agree more, they look like fakes.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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They might be real somethings, but coins they aren't.
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Pillar of the Community
Bulgaria
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Pillar of the Community
Bulgaria
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Moderator
 Australia
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OK, I've done a bit more research and found them all. The pointy-bearded fake is here on FORVM's gallery of fantasies. And here is the "aes grave" at top left. The big one with the trident-wielding Poseidon is very loosely copied off a (much smaller) silver stater of Poseidonia; Example. "POM" isn't archaic "ROME", it's archaic "POS". Here is a replica of similar design. I can't read the script on the crested-helmet one well enough to ID it.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As an admitted ancient novice, the biggest tip-off for me that they are not genuine is the fact that they are the size of a cup coaster 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: As an admitted ancient novice Same here--yet I'm pretty familiar with the art of ancient Greece. It was seldom surpassed by ancient Rome, and rarely matched by modern copies. That helps a novice like me sort out obvious copies from more faithful reproductions. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Personally, I think it might be nice to have a sub-collection of these tourist copies, if they weren't too expensive.
Especially if they were several decades old and you knew the person who acquired them, or if I could personally get them on a trip to the great places where they sell them to tourists. (I never get to travel abroad...yet.)
I would actually prefer the tourist types as apposed to the "genuine" replicas, which could be dangerously deceiving.
Just a sub- collection....... for the fun of it.
They use to sell tourist Kachina dolls along Route 66 in New Mexico back in the 40's & 50's. They were rather cheap imatations of the real dolls. They're kinda collectable now.
Anyway, just a thought.
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New Member
 United States
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I was pretty sure they were fake but still needed to make sure. The two people who knew anything about them insisted they were real. My grandmother said there was no need to fake them because they were a dime a dozen and worthless. lol. Thanks Sap. That was the type of reply I was looking for. With that being said...They're real, I tell you! REAL! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think the writing on them is cuneiform for "COPY."
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