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mmerlinn, I've read quite a few of your post on various thread and I can see/understand your view. Here are some of my thought: The crash of paper PM (silver in particular) will probably come (according to my understanding of your post), which would bring down the SPOT PRICE. However, in reality, at such crash where/how can people like us acquire the physical silver. My personal experience reflected this: At the crash of 2008 when silver falling from around $20/oz to sub $10/oz, all selling activities were virtually HALTED (Southern California & even online) . Not until silver climb up to about $12, did I see some selling.... but the premium was high (even for 90% junk silver). Even yesterday, I've checked local craigslist and some online dealers.... there are not much selling, the supplies of low premium silvers are running low (even APMEX is running out of stock on some of the product that cost $0.50 plus SPOT per OZ). What I am trying to share is even if the crash is coming, the challenge of acquiring physical silver (PM in general) is not simple and also costly (dealer tend to increase the premium as spot price falling - it make sense business wise). Utilize the crash to play paper PM is great but unless we have a long (at least a few months) price slump, which seemed unlikely, not many physical PM buyers can take advantage of the price drop. There are simply no supplies available at the dip. Anyways, I hope your prediction of the crash come in late October will be corrected. We have to wait and see.
Edited by SA4H 09/27/2011 3:04 pm
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United States
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Wow Danlos, you are like Nostradamus needless to say....
Can you predict whether or not a coin will land on heads or tails as well?
Edited by Silverhawk74 09/27/2011 3:34 pm
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Actually...I posted a nice technical analysis summary of the precious metals market a month or so ago, when the EMA20 (Exponential moving day average) was crossing down over the SMA50 on all metals except gold...
The signs of the crash were broadcast months ago...and yes, this is nowhere near the bottom...but a drop from $50 (and for bullion buyers its more like $58), to $25 is very significant, in a short time frame :)...
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I am just razzing you, as I posted a thread giving Merlin credit for the same prediction, lol  .... Now then, did you predict it would gain almost 8 bucks back to almost 33 by today, which tells me this aint 1980, and people are buying left an right, instead of being lead by fear and selling at the first signs of a bad swing.... It may pull back some more when it gets back up to the areas where the wise DO NOT like to buy up at 40 plus and 1700 plus around Christmas time, when everyone is busy buying little Timmy the new G.I.Joe with the kung fu grip, to steal a phrase from Eddy Murphy in trading places, lol. But as we all know if the early part of this year is an indication, it is gonna start a nice climb in January, and probably will not pull back till early summer..... And if Stansberry's prediction and timeline turns out to be close to right closing in on late 2011, maybe it will not go back down at all in the summer....
Edited by Silverhawk74 09/27/2011 4:37 pm
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United States
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Quote: One fella, who bought 10 oz of silver looked at one of the Vickies and asked "what's an obverse" ? Maybe you should have asked him what a "Reverse" was. 
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pure silver or numismatics, to each their own. I can't complain because I've made some good sales of pure silver coins to buyers that were looking for the "younger queen on the heads side and a maple leaf on the tails side"
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United States
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Fair enough but with so many people talking about it they had to get it right one time.  So it is 50/50 give me your price at the end of November. Close to $20 or close to $40? I still do not see a crash it is still over the price point it was at a year ago. I can still hear people telling me wow it is above $24 I have never seen that. As a very long time buyer I have hardly noticed the small drop in price, though I know there was a large crowd to jump on the band wagon this past year so they may see things differently. Now it gets back to the $8 range I may not be so pleasant with my views.
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$20 or $40 at the end of November really doesn't bother me in the least. When I have a few Quid spare I buy silver instead of putting it in my savings account. The silver may tarnish a bit over the years but it doesn't vanish. Superannuation firms and banks have a nasty habit of eroding your savings or going broke leaving you nothing. I am certain that the money I spend on silver will boost my savings over the next ten years a lot more than if I trusted a bank with it So when the price is down I tend to save more. Just wanted to put my 2 cents worth in
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The recent silver "crash" was caused by the same circumstances as the price drop in the fall of 2008. Not so much history repeating itself as rhyming. When silver bottomed out at $8.83/oz. in 2008, it was due to Wall Street selling off paper gold and silver futures to meet margin calls. This month's run down to $30? Same thing. Also the same story as fall 2008 is a big demand for physical silver concurrent with the paper selloff. When spot bottomed out in 2008, you still couldn't buy a bullion ASE in Denver for less than $17.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: Deflation's back...ladies and gentlemen...and its staying for a while...
I wouldn't call it deflation unless the prices on food, clothing, shelter, gas, etc also dropped. PM alone don't make an economy.
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Quote: I wouldn't call it deflation unless the prices on food, clothing, shelter, gas, etc also dropped. PM alone don't make an economy. Agreed, Fredd. IMO, there has to be a general trend of falling prices in many items for it to qualify as "deflation". If we look at the nitty gritty of even a healthy economy, we can almost always find a few items that are falling in price as the majority hold steady or move a little higher. The one thing that Bernanke and other banksters will not tell you is that deflation is marvelous for anyone who has MONEY. I mean, just think about it. All of a sudden, your money buys a lot more goods and services than it did before. Problem? No, not really. True, your hard assets are also likely to be worth less than before but if you aren't selling them, no problem. Me thinks that deflation IS a big prob for the banks and that is why he is so fiercely against it. As far as the citizens go, INflation is a MUCH bigger problem. Suddenly, your money buys a lot less than it did before and any money you've saved is worth less as well. This is how your standard of living is eroded, not by deflation.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Inflation, especially runaway, is a huge fear of the banksters. With billions loaned out at 3-4% on 30-year mortgages, even a 10% a year inflation means they'd get back less than $100,000 on a million dollar loan. If you're deep in debt, the best that can happen for you is lots of inflation.
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Quote: If you're deep in debt, the best that can happen for you is lots of inflation. Doesn't that assume that your income is also inflating? If it isn't, then lots of inflation is a financial killer. I'm sure that we both well remember the inflation of the Carter era and what it did to people living on fixed incomes. It definitely was not pretty.
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