1987-S Lincoln Memorial Cent Proof D/D

The coin shows split plating in all of the photos. For the better part it is due to die wear, which caused the ridges. Bottom line, the coin is worth normal coin value, and the doubling is not a doubled die. End of story.

You came asking a question as to what it is. I answered. You can accept the answer or not, doesn't really matter one way or the other.

Has anyone seen a proof cent with this type of doubling? Sure. I have. Dozens of times. It comes from a combination of striking pressure and die wear which result in split plating. That's the answer, no different answer is going to end up being the correct answer. Sorry you don't like it.

The years from 1982 through 1989 were notorious for plating problems on Lincoln cents because they didn't do enough extensive testing to figure out the right way to plate zinc with copper before moving forward with doing it in production. A vast number of the coins from this period show problems - gas bubbles, split plating, excessive die wear problems, under pressure strikes, over pressure strikes, and a myriad of other things that made a large number of the coins turn out to look 'wierd'. They are not hub doubling, they are not errors, and they are not valuable.

This will be my final post on this subject. I prefer not to be told that I'm not looking at what I am. I know what I see in your images, and I have told you what it is. And yes, that is the end of the story for me.

I may come back in a couple of weeks, I have things to take care of that preclude my spending time here for a while. Have fun all.

Nathanscoins

You have an advantage having the coin in hand,, Like I said previously we are looking at the info and pictures that you have provided.

Coppercoins is a true expert, with a few books writtn and published on the subject of Die varieties,, He also has a very extensive web business and photo gallery involving thousands of coins.

Respect given is respect gained.

Try taking the pics without a flash if you are using one, or difusing the light through a milk jug or similar opaque filter.

I have to admit that the coins look like they are split at the lettering which is very common on the plated cents.

I believe you when you say they are not,, Did you take a look at the doubling types in the link I provided ?

Rick

I usually do not confront someone, but I have a real problem with your posts....

I looked over the photos really well, and as you can see, the "zinc" areas are NOT reflections. The lighting is all wrong.


I do not know what your game is here, but you are busted....

I also think you were very disrespectful to coppercoins. He was trying to help and you dissed him bad for no reason.

Sorry Pal, just call em as I see em'


MM

Nathan I don't understand why you are so surprised at the comments here.

The opinions were almost exactly the same here as on another forum. That it was either split plating or Strike Doubling that scraped the plating when the obverse die slipped.

Perhaps you could work out a deal to send the coin to coppercoins if he is willing to look at it in hand. If he's wrong, I'm sure he will admit it.

Now I will say this in Nathan's defense...

If this coin is in the mint holder and he's taking photos through it, crazy things will happen to the light. The direction the light is coming from doesn't mean that's the only direction it's hitting the coin from. Trust me, I've photographed thousands of them.

thank you bobby.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-s-VERY-RAR...em8373387018

Same deal? You guys it might not be zinc... I'm going to leave it up to you guys because I am not an expert

The 1983 cent is a victim of the same thing - split plating at the time of the strike. There are literally thousands of proof cents out there that suffer from the same thing, I have seen it dozens of times.

Exactly what causes it isn't really all that important - what it is would be more important, and that's exactly what it is. It is most likely caused by the fact that proof coins are struck more than once on purpose, and the feeble coating of copper on the zinc planchet wasn't enough at the time to withstand the pressure of a double strike.

Any time you see a zinc proof cent with the zinc peeking through, especially on the outside edges of the outer letters of the design, this is what you have, and it isn't rare, and it isn't worth a premium value. In fact, it would be worth less than a non-effected cent because the non-effected cents are much less likely to corrode because the zinc is not exposed to the elements.