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Another Day Of Dollar Index And Gold Both Rising...

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 Posted 10/04/2011  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCoinBoi to your friends list
I love Jersey Shore. Okay, maybe not love...but I tune in every week to get a good laugh :)

Im under 30 and am slowly adding to my silver pile with every pay check. I appreciate the sudden drop from 42/oz to 30/oz. Was finally able to snatch up a few silver commemorative pieces from the 80s and 90s that I find interesting and shiny :)

But seriously, the economy and whatnot has been downhill ever since I got old enough to pay attention to it. My college buddies, however, cannot tell me how much an ounce of silver or gold is. Most people cant.
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 Posted 10/04/2011  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
I can envision gold prices surging upwards when inflation begins to heat up but personally feel that unless worldwide manufacturing activity experiences a significant uptick, silver prices might not keep pace %wise with gold prices.

Because of its economical cost structure and chemical/electrical similarities to gold, silver utilization is more closely tied to manufacturing activity which at present seems to be declining or stable at best.

imho,
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 Posted 10/04/2011  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
I agree, Hock. I sometimes feel as if I am on a ship, calmly watching the calm ocean while at the same time realizing that a devastating tsunami is racing under the ship, unheard and unfelt, but heading for our land that it will devastate.

Like you, I have been preparing for this by stockpiling the usual necessary goodies. Those who refuse to prepare for such events until the disaster is finally clear to one and all will call this "hoarding", as if name-calling will ease their conscience as they try to steal what we have saved.

Still, it saddens me terribly to watch my fellow Americans waste so much time and money on trivia when they should be working over-time and saving all they can to prepare for some VERY hard times. Was this what it was like at the fall of the Roman empire? I surely hope not but can't quite shake off the nagging feeling that it was... bread and circuses, wine, and orgies... don't worry about those barbarians!

Greece just announced that it cannot meet its scheduled loan payments for this year or for next year... or perhaps any year, for that matter? The stress that this places on their society may well be more than it can bear without disintegrating. Will we see a Greece that is composed of isolated city states once again? I hope not but they do seem headed that way with a loss of national control and order.

Unfortunately, that kind of thing has a nasty way of spreading to other places, which would place the other PIIGS countries in danger. The countries trying to save these experiments in socialism from themselves could well capsize themselves in the fruitless effort of trying to save them. At some point, and hopefully sooner rather than later, they should be allowed to default, restructure / repudiate their debts, and get on with starting over. With even a bit of luck, they will not repeat the errors of the past. If the world has more sense than an acorn, they will not loan them the money with which to make these same spending / debt errors.
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 Posted 10/04/2011  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
I don't know about the dollar, but gold has dropped around $45 $52 $60 so far today. If it makes it below $1600 again, I might just have to buy myself another gold coin...
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10/04/2011 4:11 pm
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 Posted 10/04/2011  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
w00t! I placed an order for a gold coin just as the price dipped below $1600 and so far it has risen $20 up to $1620.

Of course, I'll feel like an idiot if it suddenly dips down well below $1600, but at least I'll be an idiot with a gold coin...
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 Posted 10/04/2011  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
"WWF, the Kardashians, & Jersey Shore!"

"trivia"

I noticed the real smart folk on Jeopardy miss questions often in the above category's, but not this guy! As it is all about being WELL ROUNDED. I have been red hot lately, so I am thinking about trying out for the show, he he he lol....

Last night final Jeopardy was history, I had to laugh an bet a zillion here on the couch....

A stamp recently released is the 150th anniversary of this....

I was like "Fort Sumter, pleaaaase." ,lol!

The girlfriend was like "How did you know that?", and I replied that I do have 26 episodes of civil war journals saved in the DVR, lol....

Of course, I have solved one puzzle maybe two in about 30 plus years of wheel of fortune, funny how the brain works, or not....

I can remember who started a war a thousand years ago, but can't solve a word puzzle with only two boxes left unopened, rof....
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10/04/2011 6:49 pm
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 Posted 10/04/2011  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
However, I do not watch scripted wrestling. Sorry WWE fans, but that is a true waste of time and human space, lol....

last Gold, WWF stands for World wildlife foundation, as they won in court, the WWE world wresting entertainment lost, and is sad that I do know that fact....
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10/04/2011 6:52 pm
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 Posted 10/04/2011  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Of course, I'll feel like an idiot if it suddenly dips down well below $1600, but at least I'll be an idiot with a gold coin...

Yep. But you know what they say. "An idiot and his gold are soon parted!".

Seriously, though... good job on buying in when you did.

In time, all this flailing around will cease and the markets will stabilize. When that time comes, it is likely that gold and silver will be higher than they are today. We are still in a long term PM bull market, regardless of the daily or weekly price moves.
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 Posted 10/05/2011  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
When I got up this morning, I saw that gold had dipped back down below $1600 again and was currently at %1599. There's still one more gold coin I want to buy, so I was hoping the downward trend would continue. Alas, that may have been the floor for now, as prices seem to have bounced and are rising again.

I'm in a good spot, though. If gold drops again, I'll be able to get the coin I want. If gold goes up, I'll feel good about the one I bought yesterday.
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 Posted 10/05/2011  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list
There is lots of support for gold prices in and around the $1500 area, about $100 below current levels, and there is really no support before $1550. So, most likely we will see $1550 and possibly $1500 before gold decides to stabilize.

After that, it is anyone's guess whether gold will drop more in the short term or not. Regardless, in the long term there is no reason that I can see for it to remain under $2000.
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 Posted 10/05/2011  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
I tell you what jumpin tracks a bit, and I thought this thread was as good as any to mention this, the fact that these protestors are camping outside of Wall street. I think it points to the undeniable fact, that the common Joe (not the troll;) is fed up with big business, banks, Wall street, the government, etc....

Going back in time, it seems like all big events in history often start with similar marches and protests. Just another early sign of darker days to come IMO....
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 Posted 10/05/2011  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
And I saw another article last night, about how Big BEN is warning the government, if we don't immediately address these problems, we may be in another recession by the new year....

Is it me, or is this JACK-WAGON spewing verbal diarrhea out of his pie hole, while laughing out the other side of his mouth, as HE HAS ALWAYS KNOWN, he or any group in power can't fix this mess, which all got set in motion back in and around 1971 by Nixon....

I don't know which of those two idiots I would like to take off the proverbial Bug's Bunny white glove, and fill up with a brick just before the ol forehand backhand treatment across their faces until the brick turns into a pile of dust. Probably would be Nixon, as he is the real blame for this, as everything is this world has a beginning and ending point, and from I have learned here from many a wise poster, seems like he started this entire quagmire when he signed the death certificate to the American dollar....
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10/05/2011 7:05 pm
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 Posted 10/05/2011  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list
@Silverhawk

At least you are reading the history, so you can see where this is all going and therefore take whatever actions you need to get past this part of history. And you won't be caught with your pants down when something "unexpected" (unexpected by those with their heads in the sand) happens. It won't be unexpected to you because you already knew it "could" happen.
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 Posted 10/05/2011  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Thanks Mmerlinn! You and many a wise posters here will be ahead of the curve as well when the time comes, and have been for some time....

That documentary about L Frank Baum BF recently posted and the messages within warning us of the big banks, etc.. And the part that really grabbed my attention goes something like this.....

Jesus got so mad at the Temple, because the big bankers of the time had a monopoly on silver. So he tossed them from the church, as they looked to profit from the poor. Is anything really any different today, then these events I spoke of that happened two thousand plus years ago....

Has really that much changed from then until now?

Even if you believe that story above is just a fictitious event created by humans, you can't deny the fact that something similar to those events have occurred since the first human realized how profitable greed can be....
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10/05/2011 7:33 pm
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 Posted 10/06/2011  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Going back in time, it seems like all big events in history often start with similar marches and protests. Just another early sign of darker days to come IMO....

I agree, Hawk. Things like this could very well be one of those first tiny cracks in the dam. Ignoring them is usually not a good idea. Part of me is sympathetic to the protesters, even if they do act like the hippies of the 60s. There really are legitimate grievances about the economy, business, and, oh, yes, the banks. Problem is, government is in this up to their eye-balls, so blaming business for ALL of our problems is not realistic. Places in the world that are doing well also have business going on but they don't seem as intent on licensing, regulating, and taxing it to death... while we are... and we are receiving our just reward for those efforts. Not saying that we don't need enough regulation to provide a level business playing field for all or that we can have a government without paying some tax to fund it. What I am saying is that we have taken some good basic ideas to extreme and that rarely ever works as well in the real world as it does on paper. Right now, the academics are in charge, so it's a paper world made in their image. :-/
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