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Another Day Of Dollar Index And Gold Both Rising...

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and both moving up substantially! Is this the beginning of the next leg up? Do people finally see that there are NO PRETTY GIRLS in this contest? I think we may be seeing the psychology of safe haven making a shift away from all things paper. I don't think it will be immediate but I do think it may be fairly swift. The end of this year seems to be a turning point in my mind(and I very well may be wrong)but my gut tells me a sea-change is coming worldwide away from paper and toward hard assets. Problem is,land and other assets are in short supply. Folks are starting to feel real insecure and finding it may be too late. We may see a panic worldwide when everyone comes to this realization. I have had real feelings of dread lately and I AM PRETTY WELL PREPARED.As I talk to my friends who have chosen to have their heads in the sand for the last 3 years I am seeing a slow awakening and a sense of fear developing. I am sure it will be a roller coaster but I think a net move WAY UP is coming!
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 Posted 10/03/2011  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LastGold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hockinzig:

Most people hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest! (Simon & Garfunkel).

I believe the evidence is conclusive that paper assets of all kinds are on their way to repudiation. I also believe that inflation is on its' way for the US in a big way. (though not the size and scope of Zimbabwe), because the dollar is still the international exchange currency.

However,the world is not coming to an end, (unless an asteroid the size of Texas appears in the sky), on a trajectory to hit the earth.

Those of us, with a little gray in their hair sense these things - where those who are younger, and born to a more amoral world - see nothing unusual about a Socialist US president, an immoral and corrupt banking system, and a political system that is essentially for sale to the highest bidder (lobbyists).

In the end, we will get the leaders we deserve, and the outcome we have earned.

The key is education of the young. Most don't have a clue. Try (as I have), asking someone under 30 to name any four of the first original 10 Bill of Rihts. Ninety percent of those under 30 cannot do it! Even of those over 30 - only about 50% can manage the task.

The truth is: the freedoms fought for long ago, and instilled into our Constitution and Bill of Rights will not survive long - in a population so complacent and ignorant of their birthrights. (watch any of the Mark Dice videos on youtube and be amazed...)

I have actually given away (over the past 15 years), more than a dozen copies of "The Creature From Jekyll Island", by G. Edward Griffin. Only two people - even read the book. The answers as to why Financial markets struggle, why Greece cannot be put together again, why confidence in the dollar and the US debt is eroding, etc... are all tied to the international system of fiat currency. And they are all explained thoroughly in that book. (but 600 pages is TOO LONG...)

All around the world, fiat currency is doomed to fail. (Though it may take another decade of thrashing, and writhing to arrive at that denouement.)

We will not disappear off the face of the Earth, we will not starve (at least not many in the developed countries), but much suffering IS coming!

And that is why, I (and I suspect you and many others), stack gold, silver - and also a good supply of food stuffs and other supplies we use repeatedly. Things of all kinds get much more expensive in 2012 and beyond.

I know that with you at least - I am speaking to the choir. Those not in the choir, can now go back to watching the WWF, the Kardashians, & Jersey Shore!

Best,

LastGold

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BINGO!
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"In the end, we will get the leaders we deserve, and the outcome we have earned."

Whaddya mean?
We have the best leaders money can buy!

;)
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I love Jersey Shore. Okay, maybe not love...but I tune in every week to get a good laugh :)

Im under 30 and am slowly adding to my silver pile with every pay check. I appreciate the sudden drop from 42/oz to 30/oz. Was finally able to snatch up a few silver commemorative pieces from the 80s and 90s that I find interesting and shiny :)

But seriously, the economy and whatnot has been downhill ever since I got old enough to pay attention to it. My college buddies, however, cannot tell me how much an ounce of silver or gold is. Most people cant.
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I can envision gold prices surging upwards when inflation begins to heat up but personally feel that unless worldwide manufacturing activity experiences a significant uptick, silver prices might not keep pace %wise with gold prices.

Because of its economical cost structure and chemical/electrical similarities to gold, silver utilization is more closely tied to manufacturing activity which at present seems to be declining or stable at best.

imho,
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I agree, Hock. I sometimes feel as if I am on a ship, calmly watching the calm ocean while at the same time realizing that a devastating tsunami is racing under the ship, unheard and unfelt, but heading for our land that it will devastate.

Like you, I have been preparing for this by stockpiling the usual necessary goodies. Those who refuse to prepare for such events until the disaster is finally clear to one and all will call this "hoarding", as if name-calling will ease their conscience as they try to steal what we have saved.

Still, it saddens me terribly to watch my fellow Americans waste so much time and money on trivia when they should be working over-time and saving all they can to prepare for some VERY hard times. Was this what it was like at the fall of the Roman empire? I surely hope not but can't quite shake off the nagging feeling that it was... bread and circuses, wine, and orgies... don't worry about those barbarians!

Greece just announced that it cannot meet its scheduled loan payments for this year or for next year... or perhaps any year, for that matter? The stress that this places on their society may well be more than it can bear without disintegrating. Will we see a Greece that is composed of isolated city states once again? I hope not but they do seem headed that way with a loss of national control and order.

Unfortunately, that kind of thing has a nasty way of spreading to other places, which would place the other PIIGS countries in danger. The countries trying to save these experiments in socialism from themselves could well capsize themselves in the fruitless effort of trying to save them. At some point, and hopefully sooner rather than later, they should be allowed to default, restructure / repudiate their debts, and get on with starting over. With even a bit of luck, they will not repeat the errors of the past. If the world has more sense than an acorn, they will not loan them the money with which to make these same spending / debt errors.
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I don't know about the dollar, but gold has dropped around $45 $52 $60 so far today. If it makes it below $1600 again, I might just have to buy myself another gold coin...
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10/04/2011 4:11 pm
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w00t! I placed an order for a gold coin just as the price dipped below $1600 and so far it has risen $20 up to $1620.

Of course, I'll feel like an idiot if it suddenly dips down well below $1600, but at least I'll be an idiot with a gold coin...
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"WWF, the Kardashians, & Jersey Shore!"

"trivia"

I noticed the real smart folk on Jeopardy miss questions often in the above category's, but not this guy! As it is all about being WELL ROUNDED. I have been red hot lately, so I am thinking about trying out for the show, he he he lol....

Last night final Jeopardy was history, I had to laugh an bet a zillion here on the couch....

A stamp recently released is the 150th anniversary of this....

I was like "Fort Sumter, pleaaaase." ,lol!

The girlfriend was like "How did you know that?", and I replied that I do have 26 episodes of civil war journals saved in the DVR, lol....

Of course, I have solved one puzzle maybe two in about 30 plus years of wheel of fortune, funny how the brain works, or not....

I can remember who started a war a thousand years ago, but can't solve a word puzzle with only two boxes left unopened, rof....
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10/04/2011 6:49 pm
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However, I do not watch scripted wrestling. Sorry WWE fans, but that is a true waste of time and human space, lol....

last Gold, WWF stands for World wildlife foundation, as they won in court, the WWE world wresting entertainment lost, and is sad that I do know that fact....
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10/04/2011 6:52 pm
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Of course, I'll feel like an idiot if it suddenly dips down well below $1600, but at least I'll be an idiot with a gold coin...

Yep. But you know what they say. "An idiot and his gold are soon parted!".

Seriously, though... good job on buying in when you did.

In time, all this flailing around will cease and the markets will stabilize. When that time comes, it is likely that gold and silver will be higher than they are today. We are still in a long term PM bull market, regardless of the daily or weekly price moves.
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When I got up this morning, I saw that gold had dipped back down below $1600 again and was currently at %1599. There's still one more gold coin I want to buy, so I was hoping the downward trend would continue. Alas, that may have been the floor for now, as prices seem to have bounced and are rising again.

I'm in a good spot, though. If gold drops again, I'll be able to get the coin I want. If gold goes up, I'll feel good about the one I bought yesterday.
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 Posted 10/05/2011  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is lots of support for gold prices in and around the $1500 area, about $100 below current levels, and there is really no support before $1550. So, most likely we will see $1550 and possibly $1500 before gold decides to stabilize.

After that, it is anyone's guess whether gold will drop more in the short term or not. Regardless, in the long term there is no reason that I can see for it to remain under $2000.
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I tell you what jumpin tracks a bit, and I thought this thread was as good as any to mention this, the fact that these protestors are camping outside of Wall street. I think it points to the undeniable fact, that the common Joe (not the troll;) is fed up with big business, banks, Wall street, the government, etc....

Going back in time, it seems like all big events in history often start with similar marches and protests. Just another early sign of darker days to come IMO....
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And I saw another article last night, about how Big BEN is warning the government, if we don't immediately address these problems, we may be in another recession by the new year....

Is it me, or is this JACK-WAGON spewing verbal diarrhea out of his pie hole, while laughing out the other side of his mouth, as HE HAS ALWAYS KNOWN, he or any group in power can't fix this mess, which all got set in motion back in and around 1971 by Nixon....

I don't know which of those two idiots I would like to take off the proverbial Bug's Bunny white glove, and fill up with a brick just before the ol forehand backhand treatment across their faces until the brick turns into a pile of dust. Probably would be Nixon, as he is the real blame for this, as everything is this world has a beginning and ending point, and from I have learned here from many a wise poster, seems like he started this entire quagmire when he signed the death certificate to the American dollar....
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