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Crimper + Wheats + VDB's = Over Priced Auctions!

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 Posted 06/02/2008  2:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found another one to connect the dots on, except this one is taking it to the extreme-

First the sellers completed auctions- http://search-completed.ebay.com/se...ypage=search
Next the wrappers and crimpers- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...310018887489
This is where it gets good, check out all of the VDB's bought-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...360051743258
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...290232860759
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...120264218419
There are a lot more, just thought I would put a few of the dots on here
Now check out his completed auctions and current ones (need to be signed to ebay to see these)
http://search-completed.ebay.com/se...ypage=search
Here are some bags of wheat to fill the rolls-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...140233167788

At least in the description there is no mention of "unsearched". When will people learn? Some of the completed auctions are at least close to the value of the 2 VDB's but there was one that went for $100. I hope no one here bought any of these.
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 Posted 06/02/2008  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"ROLL*1909VDB & 1909VDB* ON BOTH ENDS! 50 WHEATS!"

Hmm...and what are the odds of that--10 times no less?
If only buyers had done the legwork you have!
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 Posted 06/03/2008  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skelly423 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is one thing worth noting here, and it's very bizarre to me. None of the buyers of these rolls are leaving negative feedback, and in fact a lot of them are quite happy with what they bought. I can't figure that part out...
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 Posted 06/03/2008  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"None of the buyers of these rolls are leaving negative feedback"

Perhaps, but these two comments struck me as slightly sarcastic:

"Great sales pitch"..."thank you for the two 1909 vdb cents that['s] all"

Buyer's remorse often gives way to some rationale that they "won"...just like gamblers returning from Vegas, who "won $700" by spending $1000.
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 Posted 06/05/2008  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just amazing what kind of morals some people have, I look at coins on ebay like I did penny stocks in the late 90's, it all about the hype!

Another thing I noticed is a lot of people do not check the sellers buy it now items, I have seen many times rolls go for more in a auction listing when the seller has them for buy it now for cheaper.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We don't have this problem in Australia. The only rolls you are likely to find are Reserve bank, mint or security company rolls. Bank rolls are long gone, despite some unscrupulous sellers on ebay doing some pretty lousy jobs of trying to pass self rolled rolls as genuine.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mint-Roll-of-20...ns_W0QQitemZ a href= https://www.coincommunity.com/go/link.asp?target=https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/380032821361 target= _blank rel= nofollow 380032821361 /a QQihZ025QQcategoryZ3376QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Edited by latman100
06/07/2008 09:16 am
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 Posted 06/07/2008  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excerpt from that last "unsearched" auction (sorry about the stupid all caps):

Quote:
"A TRULY UNSEARCHED HEAVY DUTY BANK MACHINE CRIMPED & TAMPER PROOF ROLL ...FLYING EAGLE, BU UNCIRCULATE GEM WHEATS, BU 1943 STEEL CENTS, 1909 P, 1909 S, 1909 S VDB, 1914 D, OR EVEN MORE THAN 2 1909 VDB'S ETC ETC....HUGE LOT OF COINS CAME FROM AN OLDTIME HOARDER THAT ONLY COLLECTED ANY TYPE OF WHEATS, INDIANS, FLYING EAGLES"
Classic, deceptive baiting tactics. Give it a minute's thought and this pipe dream doesn't make any sense. What, a hoarder bank rolled coins with an 09-VDB on each end? Too funny!

"It's just amazing what kind of morals some people have"

Sort of sad isn't it? As if making money and honesty were mutually exclusive concepts.

Latman, I busted up over that one!
Edited by KurtS
06/07/2008 1:18 pm
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 Posted 06/08/2008  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about the sellers blog wishing for world peace?

I threw up in my mouth a little bit
Edited by MINT_MARQ
06/08/2008 9:39 pm
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 Posted 06/09/2008  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another one, with Indian Head cents. Someone is going to be sorely disappointed...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...WA:IT&ih=011

Him buying the 1908S off ebay was enough for me to figure this out. I can't believe how many people fell for this.
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 Posted 06/10/2008  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone caught on- He left the feedback that same day he won.

Crimper-+-Wheats-+-VDB's-=-Over-Priced-Auctions! SCAM Unsearched? See IK23's purchases at 160241007193 & 160237639689
Def. 1909 S or 1908 Sealed Indian cent Shotgun Roll WOW (#320259290118)
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 Posted 06/20/2008  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found some more dots to connect-

Sellers buying feedback- http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...dbackAsBuyer
Rolls and fancy crimper- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...300228355421

Check out the buying history, lots of VDB's, flying eagles, and more.
What puzzles me is this one- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...190229436838
I think something is going on, he is now selling rolls also, maybe building a seller account? Getting smarter?
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 Posted 07/10/2008  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
chrsb, I agree with you on that last one. It is puzzling, in that the winning bid was $00.01. And the winner is a well known "seller with a feminine name".
On another note, you recall the "large number of cents, I mentioned. I have gone thru a lot of them, and I can say that there are many RPM's. I have found several, and I haven't made a real serious search. It looks like anyone looking for Varieties, will do okay. No errors found, and only one clip. I have also notified the oqner that he may pick up said coins, at his convenience. Hesaid he would be by late the next day, but has not shown up so far. I have been offered "uncirculated rolls to look thru" Makes for a curious situation.....I'll be in touch.
Dick
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 Posted 07/10/2008  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dick,

I have always been leary on some uncirculated rolls, I got one a little while back that was as tight as could be, the ends looked perfect. I noticed one end was toned and the other was not, well I flipped the end coin that was not toned and guess what, it was toned. Someone had flipped it to make it a tail tail roll.
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