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Strange Sale But A Nice Coin

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Received this today - The seller used the wrong pictures in his auction, it should have been a Maximian London coin but what arrived was a Diocletian Siscia coin (294AD RIC VI Siscia 76a listed as common).

Was a bit annoyed it was the wrong coin but still liked it, its got good clear fields and a nice style to it, its prob in better condition that the London coin I thought I was bidding on. The original coin has been posted to someone else so I have no chance of getting that now, I decided to keep this one. The green is nothing to worry about and is not BD just a bit of harmless verdigris.

IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG / GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI - S A in fields.
Its a biggy - 29mm and almost 11 grams.

What do people think? I'll post the cost later so as not to influence people.


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Its a nice coin and the reverse has great detail. I love the 6-pack on Genius! I don't know what I would do if I received something other than what I bid on, but this is a fairly nice coin. And from what I see on acsearch, similar coins are on the expensive side. There are a couple they list with S Gamma in fields at near $100 value. If that is the case with your coin, perhaps if you got it for much less then that maybe you got a great deal. Again, yours is in great condition.

JW
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 Posted 10/17/2011  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very nice coin.
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 Posted 10/17/2011  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Been looking a lot closer at this coin and its got some really attractive details, I've removed some of the verdigris very carefully but it all seems inactive and very solid so think I'll just leave the rest, its lasted 1717 years just fine so far and it looks 'right' on this coin.

One thing I did notice that was quite pleasing is that although the die was, on the whole very well cut there must have been a slight mis-calculation with the reverse legend as the cutter has had to squeeze 'MANI' on the end of it, a shame as the rest of the coin is excellent - I bet there were a few Roman swears used in the workshop that day!
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Wouldn't you love to have been a fly on the wall? On second thought, I wouldn't be here now so forget I said that.

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 Posted 10/17/2011  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This story is another example of the many surprises with ancient coins.

I got one that was differnt from the one pictured in the sale, same type but actually it was a little nicer. I went ahead and kept it.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin I should have received was the first coin in this post:

https://goccf.com/t/100028

I knew I already had a bargain - the London coin was in worse condition but was a nice large and complete example and being a London coin seems to add a premium value wise.

I contacted the seller to try and get the London coin also but I found out it had been sold and posted a couple of weeks earlier.

I was able to get the above coin for the incredible price of $7.50 and just over $8 for postage! All in for less than $16 its got to be one of my best ever buys
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 Posted 10/18/2011  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if the examples I cited on acsearch.com are somewhat more expensive examples, I believe you got an incredible deal. Good on ya
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Posting this reply mainly so I can link to the thread.

Well - having looked at this coin through my microscope I decided to treat it for BD as I suspected some of the lumps were not as inactive as I first thought. Its a long slow process but I guess it needs to be done if I want the coin to survive. Below is the after pic:

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I used long soaks in distilled water and picking at it with a dental tool until I could see no more green. It was then put back in the water and the process repeated about a dozen times, every time you pick it up you see bits you missed the last time. I can even see a few bits on this photo now that I missed so will have to have a go at those shortly

Once I was happy the green was gone the coin was put in the oven for about 20 mins on a low temperature and then Ren waxed while still hot. I think the results are OK, certainly better than it getting craters! I don't know if anyone else has better methods for doing this but this is roughly what I kept finding on the net.

I only down sides are the way it had to be taken back pretty much to the metal between 9-12 O'clock on the obverse legend, this will take years to tone back like the rest of the coin. The light colours in that area are bits of silvering that was under the verdigris, nice but looks a bit odd!
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 Posted 11/02/2011  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job good to hear others ideas it makes us better at what we are doing thanks for sharing.
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I will try your method. And that is nice looking and sharp coin you have :) I like it!
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Hey, I got one rare coin of theodosius but patina was damaged and needed to remove it completely... Now I need to know how to make toning of coin,i dont want metal to be seen. I want this coin to have darker color.
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