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I know there is not much detail on this coin, but I have been curious about it since I received the 13 ancients my brother got me for Christmas because of its, well different color than all the other bronzes I received and the weight seemed a bit heavier, although I was not able to weigh it until this afternoon. I took it to a coin shop in my small town. He doesn't collect or sell ancients but let me use his scale. He told me he doesn't think that it is gold, but said it might be silver. (Wishful thinking) So... The coin is a bit oblong and is 18mm on the dot. It weighs 2.8 grams. (or slightly heavier as his scale only weighed to the tenth amazingly.) The image is very close to what the actual coloring as I shot it outside and nailed the white balance. I have no idea where to start because of the lack of lettering, mint mark and vague bust of ? Any help would be appreciated. I know its not in very good shape and probably is close to worthless. But that's ok, I would just like an educated guess on this one. Thanks guys.   |
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United Kingdom
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It looks bronze or perhaps billon to me - have a look at Claudius II, Quintillus and Gallienus in that order as far as the bust style is concerned, pretty sure its one of these three  Edited by bobbyhelmet
12/30/2011 8:19 pm
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Thanks Bobbyhelment, on my way!
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Ok, I think I might have a match. Bronze antoninianus, RIC V 57, 2.808 gm, diameter 18.4, Rome Mint, 268-270AD Obverse IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right, Reverse LIBERALITAS AVG LIBERALITAS standing left holding tessera and cornucopia. What do you think?
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Wow, I would have never come up with that attribuation based on the condition of the coin.
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I didn't say it was correct :) I went to the Forvm Ancient Coins and went through all of the Claudius II coins for sale and that have been sold until I found one that could have matched what I had for weight, size, obverse and reverse as close to what was left of my coin. Anyway, I do believe it is a Claudis II and it looks like Liberalitas. Is it a match? Don't know. Just trying to learn to attribute. I'll catch on eventually. But I appreciate the starting point bobbyhelmet. And no its not gold or silver. Just another hue of bronze.
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I can read a little bit of text: "EX" above the reverse figure, 1 to 2 o'clock. Given the militaristic theme of Claudius II coins, I predict "EXERCITVS", meaning "army". Abbreviated, since there isn't room to write the word in full, but I can see places for the letters EXER at least. Looking through the Wildwinds page of Claudius II for coins with both EXER and somebody holding a cornucopia, I find this example - GENIVS EXERCI, Spirit of the Army, holding cornucopia and patera. Though I think I can make out remnants of a "Z" in the field below the cornucopia, making it more in line with this type. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I would be more inclined to think this has a "EXERCI" reverse as is indicated by the "EX" visible at one o'clock. If, and a big if, it is Claudius II, it's a good possibility it would be more like RIC 48, with a reverse of GENIVS EXERCI, Genius, naked but for chlamys on left shoulder, standing left, holding patera and cornucopiae.
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SAP: I think we both posted at the same time. I did not, however, notice the Z in the right field, Good catch.
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Wow! You guys have incredible eyesight! Sap your second example looks very close to my coin as I look at it closely. I am very impressed! JW, did you concur?
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SAP is rarely, if ever, wrong.
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12/30/2011 11:45 pm
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Though I think I can make out remnants of a "Z" in the field below the cornucopia, making it more in line with this type Good spot - I think its very likely the same as the coin in SAPs second link. |
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Then I will attribute this coin appropriately. Thanks SAP for your keen eye and to all who took the time to look up this coin. Every time I do this I get a little more knowledge, but I must admit I can't seem to use wildwinds like you guys do. It is easier for me to look at coins that are on the Forvm Ancient Coins (both current and sold)than to use the letters and mint marks like you do to nail a coin down. I'm sure as I get more practice, I will get better. I have also bought a couple of reference books on both Roman and Biblical coins that give history to both. I hope as I read them, I will gain a better working knowledge on the subject.Thanks again. Best regards, and a Happy New year to you all!
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