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Help With Gold Coin | Imitation Venetian Ducat

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 Posted 03/10/2012  03:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add baitm8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys can anyone help identify this coin its 22k gold 20mm diameter and weighs just over 4gms its been made into a pendant shame I know but I've not seen one before
thanks in advance Norman

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 Posted 03/10/2012  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mvojnovic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like Venetian ducat but lets wait and see what others have to say about it.

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On the side of banner (second pic) there should be word DUX. I can clearly see first two letters but third does not look like X
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 Posted 03/10/2012  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baitm8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great I thought it was a coin and not a token thanks for for the welcome
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 Posted 03/10/2012  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say it's jeweller's imitation of Venetian ducat.
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 Posted 03/10/2012  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baitm8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the loop has been soldered to the coin it seems a lot of trouble to go to for a pendant made with a imitation coin and to make it with gold and get the wording wrong,
did or do people go to such length to make an imitation coin out of gold and make such big mistakes with the wording thanks.
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Wrong wording may have been deliberate. Its then a token and not a fake coin. Which in the USA at least would have to be marked "copy" You can make tokens to your hearts content but make a coin and you will probably have a visit from some not so happy Gentlemen.
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it seems a lot of trouble to go to for a pendant made with a imitation coin and to make it with gold and get the wording wrong, did or do people go to such length to make an imitation coin out of gold and make such big mistakes with the wording

Yes. One reason is, as nohope suggests, an avoidance of anti-counterfeiting laws. That's presumably the reason why this very common replica of a "pirate piece of eight" has nonsense legends, and this "evasion" halfpenny has legends in English rather than Latin.

However, another reason why an imitation coin has garbled legends is that whoever made it was making a piece of jewellery that only needed to "look right at first glance", which this coin certainly does. It was never intended to fool neither a shopkeeper nor a coin collector. This imitation Ottoman coin made for jewellery purposes has inscriptions that are just as badly garbled Arabic as your coin is badly garbled Latin.
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Many thanks Guys & Sap for the info well its off to be scrapped for its gold value and will be taken out of circulation thanks again
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