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Greek Coin? Please Help ID

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 Posted 05/26/2012  10:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add paulitaescobar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is the front and back of the coin. I have been looking for information for hours. I found it today and it looks so interesting! Hopefully someone can give me some information about it and if it might be worth anything.
Thanks!

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 Posted 05/26/2012  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I'm not an expert here but I bet someone will know what this is exactly i'll bet....but welcome aboard.

looks roman to me.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paulitaescobar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate it. Roman hmm... could be the reason I couldn't find anything on it. Maybe this is a better photo of the head side.

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 Posted 05/26/2012  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
paulitaescobar: Welcome to the CCF!
Bad news for you, unfortunately.

This is a fake of a Roman sestertius of Nero, commemorating the Port of Ostia, at the mouth of the Tiber River. This coin was most probably made for the tourist trade. The original is rather scarce, and highly valued in the world of numismatics.

The obverse style is very atypical for a sestertius of Nero.
There is evidence from the pictures that it a cast. Some evidence of that can be found adjacent Nero's forehead, where the edge of the obverse part of a mold is visible.

The lettering is quite indistinct for a sestertius of Nero.

If you are into ancient numismatics, this example is definitely a 'keeper', to add to a reference collection of fake ancient coins. I have a small collection of fake ancient coins just for reference purposes, just for my own education.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a genuine coin similar to yours for you to compare, found here http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...=&c=&a=&l=#1 I'm not sure yours is genuine.

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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome paulitaescoba. I'm afraid I have to agree with sel_69l. It is most definitely a fake, and not a good one at that. I hope this doesn't discourage you from Ancient numismatics. It is a fascinating hobby. But, either way and once again,
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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's funny. I was looking at the same coin a couple of days ago so I actually know what it is.

I ran into this example at VCoins.

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/walli...dProduct=435

If you have about 21 grand, you can have a real one. Not likely for a collector like me. lol
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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paulitaescobar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all so much for your help and welcome.

Do you believe this may have any value at all? Even a few cents? Or is it garbage material? I am not very educated in this area.

But...I am going to look for some other coins that I have now because it is very interesting indeed!
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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe a couple dollars as a novelty, or at least for its metal. But I am just guessing.
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Just throw the coin into a fantasy or fake bag. Or get rid of it, your choice. I would probably keep it and prevent the coin from entering the market again.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh and
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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One less coin to fool potential buyers with.
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 Posted 05/27/2012  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community.

Sadly I agree with the others. It would have been a rare coin had it been real.
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 Posted 05/27/2012  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The unfortunate fact is that the coin does have value as it is because the original is so very popular and many people would be happy to pay you many times the metal value so they could turn around and sell it as genuine to someone with more dollars than sense. It is far from the worst fake of the type that I have seen but it still is just a fake.
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 Posted 05/27/2012  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The market price for a very deceptive example of this type is around $25, when it is actually sold as a fake.

I will NOT buy any ancient coin that I feel unhappy about, even if I can't find anything wrong with it. The 'gut' feeling is often, but not always, the first alarm bell that starts ringing. I passed up on a very attractive group of Rhodian didrachms for this reason. I would have loved to add one of these to my collection, but I didn't.

Every dealer worth his salt that I know of has a reference collection of fakes , and I discuss the subject of fake identification with the dealer, whenever I can get a chance.
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