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2006 P 20th Ann. Silver Dollar Reverse Proof NGC 70 Coins ?

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 Posted 03/11/2007  07:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JonathanF to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently won on ebay two Silver Dollar Set 2006 P Reverse PF S$1 Eagle 20th Anniversary PF 70 Coins.

I paid between $ 575 and $ 625 for the two Coins.

The two Coins look almost perfect except that on the back of both of the Coins there is a tiny silver color dot around 1/4 of an inch higher than the upper left part of the "D" in word "DOLLAR".

The Tiny Dot is the same Shiny Color as the Coin Lettering and the Reversed Figure on the Coin.

The Tiny Dot is almost in the same location in the two Coins but maybe is 1/16 of an inch higher in one of the Coins.

The two Coins are from two different ebay Sellers.

The Coins "NGC" Serial Numbers are the following.

"2216376-026" and
"3032248-015".

I would appreciate if someone can check on the "NGC" Coin Database to verify if these two Coins are registered as true "NGC" "PF 70" Coins.

Maybe I am being too picky, but I always thought that "PCGS" or "NGC" "70" Rated Coins are truly perfect Coins without any imperfections at all.

Thank You.

Jonathan
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 Posted 03/11/2007  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no such thing as a perfect coin. If you look hard enough, you will always be able to find something wrong. You are being too picky.....
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I'm sorry, I didn't notice this is your first post....Welcome!!
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Welcome to Coin Community!

What you are describing would not be post-Mint damage, anyway. It sounds like there may have been a small chip in the die. I know that a lot of people have said that the Mint has great quality control, but I don't believe it for a second. While there is better technology for our minting process, quality control is still being done by people and is no better (in fact, I think it's worse) than it ever was.

Who knows, your coin may end up being a variety down the road. Since it's a proof, there shouldn't have been that many coins struck from that die (relative to the total number of coins minted).

I agree that a 70 coin should be perfect - therefore, I also believe there is no such thing as a 70 coin...

Can you post pictures? If so, I'd really like to see what you're describing.
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 Posted 03/11/2007  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tpatna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with forum mom....can you post pictures?
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The only difference between a ms69 and a ms-70 or pf-69 or pf-70 is an opinion by someone.

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I don't think it matters if there are marks that can be seen with the naked eye then the coin should not have received the 70 grade and should be covered under NGC's grade guarantee. I am not sure how you have to go about getting the guarantee but I would email NGC to find out what you needed to do if you are unhappy with the coins and do not think the grade is warranted. They will either replace the coins with a true 70 coin (if they see the same thing you do) or they will pay you the difference between the grade they believe the coin deserves (again if they agree it isn't a 70 coin)and whats on the holder
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They will either replace the coins with a true 70 coin (if they see the same thing you do) or they will pay you the difference between the grade they believe the coin deserves (again if they agree it isn't a 70 coin)and whats on the holder


Really? I knew these companies had guarantees, but I had no idea they involved these potential fixes you listed Bryan. I think I need to research these guarantees for sure. I assumed without ever looking into them that if they were wrong in a grading, you simply got your money back for the grading fee, and the coin re-holstered.

Interesting. Another new thing learned, and it's before 7 am.
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