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Help With 1821 Crown Counter Stamped Mb

 
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 Posted 12/31/2013  3:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add plonker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This one has obviously lot of wear (weigh 27.29g) but fits my budget ($50)as well as has an interesting punch mark of MB. I could not find much about this counter stamp or punch mark searching online. Any idea what this counter stamp is used for and grade/value ? Thanks,









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 Posted 01/02/2014  03:39 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's very interesting. I have your coin's twin brother!



Left: 1820 crown (George III) with counterstamp
Right: 1821 crown (George IV) with counterstamp

For ages I've just considered these as PMD - it would be nice to know their origins!
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 Posted 01/02/2014  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to declare my interest, too.

I had a very worn 1816 2/6 stamped MB and a VG 1818 1/- stamped LP (or possibly IP) and I have a crown stamped GR in the same style.

The 2/6 and 1/- were given to a girl-friend many years ago to be made into jewellery.

I think I still have the crown but I don't know where it is.
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 Posted 01/08/2014  06:23 am  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MB must have been quite prolific. I wonder if he was also the artist on this coin, or are we looking for another party? This carving seems to have been done years later, when the coin was quite worn.

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 Posted 01/11/2014  08:15 am  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things have just struck me. Are there any threepennies out there, and did MB try his hand at copper?
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 Posted 01/11/2014  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Curious...another Crown on eBay has this countermark. Someone did this to a LOT of coins. Could this have been a single guy with a stamp? My father's initials are MB. Might look out for a cheap one, nice curio.

Interesting that it shows up on an 1821 and 1829. COuld they have been doing this to all their change for 8 years, makingit so common?

Theories for the MB:
1. Initials
2. Test Mark, showing the coin has passed
3. Organisation, I would suggest the B to stand for 'Bank'
4. Closed circulation - these coins being used as tender within a certain group, this being an identifying mark for legal tender coins for this group, stopping the coins being spent elsewhere and stopping external coins entering the pool (such as a workhouse).
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 Posted 09/15/2016  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've not thought about this coin for a long while, but tonight it was part of a tray I was reviewing. What struck me tonight was that although my coin looks to be a shilling, it is in fact a sixpence that has been carved with a shilling reverse. Curioser and curioser.
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 Posted 03/06/2018  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pearc98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shame I am almost 5 years late to the party :D

Sorting through very large collection of coins passed down to me and this 'MB' has stamped an 1826 shilling of mine!!


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 Posted 03/06/2018  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I notice that my original photo disappeared in the Photobucket inferno, so I'm re-posting it!

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 Posted 03/07/2018  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I notice that my original photo disappeared in the Photobucket inferno, so I'm re-posting it!
I edited your earlier reply to include it.

Hopefully alganbagerap will come make this topic whole again.
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