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 Posted 08/24/2007  8:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
First, a little background. I bought a 7070 a few months back with the intention of filling it with high grade coins. Once I realized what it would cost, I changed my plan. I am now doing 2 type sets, one in low grade that will fill the album in a reasonable time, & another of nicer coins that could take the rest of my life to complete.

I bought the 2 coins here off ebay to go in my low grade set. The coins were described as being in good condition, with some corrosion in the dark areas of the coins. The pictures were not good, but the dark areas seemed limited. The seller had 100% feedback, but coins weren't their main line. I figured worst case I would end up with more corrosion than I expected, which I could live with at the price I paid. Anyway, here are some pictures of the coins I received.



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The quarter weighed in at a whopping 4 grams, the half was 10 grams. My scale is not the best, but those weights are within a 1/2 gram. Anybody care to comment? I sent an email to the seller after I weighed the coins, no response yet.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, they are very cool coins for a low grade 7070.

I don't think that they are real. That would make them very low grade in my book.

Hope you didn't pay too much for them, or that they can be returned.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those China'esque forgeries, in fact both of them look like they were cast and not struck.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yeah, they're fake, the weights aren't even close.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool. What is the date of the CB25c?
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 Posted 08/24/2007  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they're from CHINA don't bite on the rims or you'll get lead poisoning!
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 Posted 08/24/2007  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSmith3510 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be sad if I bought them. Live and learn.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a shame the market has become flooded with so many counterfeit coins. Gone are the days where you could feel comfortable buying a raw coin.
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 Posted 08/25/2007  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you look under a scope do you see "Mattel"
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 Posted 08/25/2007  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to give the seller a couple days to respond before I start kicking up a fuss. The pictures in the auction appeared to be taken from about 1-2' away from the coin, & were very similar to the pictures taken of the sellers other items(none were coins). From that distance I had no reason to suspect the coins were fake. I did think they were possibly hiding the amount of "corrosion" the seller described in the listing, but with almost 500 100% feedback I wasn't expecting counterfeits.

If this seller regularly sold coins I would probably be pretty mad, as a non-coin seller it's possible they didn't know they had fakes. I'll try to keep this thread updated to let everyone know how it comes out. I had one forum member express an interest in these, I guess they need some cast copies to offset the nice looking busties they keep posting here. If I end up stuck I'll be sending these on to that member.

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 Posted 08/25/2007  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yep...sad forgeries! good luck getting your money back!
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 Posted 08/25/2007  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try and remember never to go by a seller's feed back. Many of them just have freinds and relatives send in great statements. They can flood the system with fantastic feedbacks just as easily as selling fake coins. Hopefully you can get your money back and also, a lessong well learned. ebay is just one more place for dishonesty to reign.
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 Posted 08/25/2007  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My comments?

I think they are both fake.

I think they are poor quality fakes.

I do not believe they are contemporary fakes (unfortunately).

Without seeing the auction and the feedback of the seller, I hope your email was calm and you didn't make any rash comments. Too many people antagonize the seller and if he HAS made an honest error it lessons your chance of an easy refund.
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 Posted 08/25/2007  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was iffy on the quarter (because I don't see allot of them) but that half isn't even close
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 Posted 08/25/2007  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not looking good...
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 Posted 08/25/2007  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got an email from the seller, they said they would give a refund. When I started this thread there was no doubt in my mind the coins were fakes. I knew they didn't look or feel right as soon as I opened the package, the weights just confirmed it. I haven't seen much on here about fakes in these denominations, & thought I should put it out there.

The pictures the seller posted were just good enough to look real, and not quite bad enough to arouse my suspicions. I thought there might be more to the condition issue than the seller mentioned in the description, but I didn't suspect the coins were fake. I could stop buying coins with bad pictures, but I have made some good buys on auctions with bad pictures.






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