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Went Medieval At A Local Coin Show - Part 1

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So there I am, true story, in a dusty basement of the Elk's club in West Haven, CT. There were only a handful of dealers most with coins minted in their lifetimes. I had tentative plans to meet up with a friend of mine and a single dealer we routinely patronize. The dealer in question generally has a wide variety of coins from all periods. Most of the coins are relatively low grade LRB ancients and battered early modern coins. He does carry some very good pieces and are priced accordingly.
About a year ago I saw some coins that I wanted to add to my collection and for one reason or another didn't come home with them. I saw him a few months ago and the coins I was interested in seeing were said to be sold.
Fortune shined upon me and surprisingly the three coins I was interested in were not sold but rather moved to some unsold box only to be reintroduced at much lower prices.
After examining the coins in hand. I recalled why I wanted the pieces. I also realized which one I really wanted having had a year to think about. My disicion was swift and satisfying. After rattling the change with my buddy I hurried home to measure and photograph my takers.
I should mention that I got the one coin I wanted and 'most' of another that I didn't plan on, but screamed at me from the box of the "almost junk." Notice I said MOST of another coin.
I guess I took from this show was, if there are no ancients to be had then you have to get medieval on that show.

The coins:

The "almost junk" little find...

(Metellum) Melle, Kingdom of the Franks
Carolingian West Francia
Charles IV The Simple (The Straight Forward)
s.898-922 AD
AR Denier 22 mm x 1.03 grams
Obverse:CARLV (retrograde S) REX R
Reverse: MET / ALO
Ref: Depeyrot 629
Note: Chipped, Very nice. " In the name of Charlemagne

I really don't know a lot about this coin type but I do like the surviving retrograde S and the nice clear MET / ALO. I know this coin type had been used by various rulers with various spellings on the reverse. METALO refers to the mint location. Come to find out, the mint location is the most common source of coins of the Carolingian kings. During this period this mint city had access to one of the most productive silver mines of the Middle Ages.

This coin has some confusing and very conflicting attributions. I have seen everything from Charlemagne or Louis the Pius to Charles the Simple to simply and anonymous coin. Anyone care to make comment.




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Nice coin 'Ancientnoob'.

Melle is now a small town but according to Wikipedia:

The town was founded in the reign of Charlemagne as a mining centre and was, for a time, the home of the French mint: the Aachen penny of Charlemagne, the first coin of Charlemagne to be found at his capital of Aachen/Aix, was minted at Metullo. The silver mines which supplied the mint continued to function off and on before being forgotten altogether in the 18th century, not to be discovered again until the 20th century.
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Interesting coin. I like that the detail of the legends are are not worn and are easy to read.
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Awesome coin Masternoob, even with a chip, you got some great details, very nice...
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Nice coin.

I like the way the English 'hammered' silver coins seem to have a greater attention to centring the 'strike' more so than the early Greek and Roman ones. Gives a better finished product IMHO.

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