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So, if this is the "near leaf" variety....  and this is the NSF obverse....   Is that called a "mule"? (btw--the coin shots have that halo because I rotated them to the same angle) Edited by KurtS
12/07/2007 3:24 pm
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I don't believe this is a "mule". If you had the NSF with the 9 close to the rim, then it would be the rare one, but yours appears to be the NSF with 1 water line and the far 9. It's still worth around $35 in MS-64 according to my price list, though.
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Hmmm...I don't know about the "close 9" variety, but I thought this was the near leaf variety. Contrasting to the others I saw for sale which were clearly far leaf versions. The NSF/Near Leaf is listed in the 62nd Charlton, but I haven't seen an added criteria involving the 9, as it's not mentioned in my sources. If this isn't a mule, perhaps I need better sources? In any case, I only paid $25 for this coin.  |
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Ok, here's another I bought, ungraded. I'm fairly certain this is NSF:  and here's the reverse:  Then, taking a reverse from an ICCS certified NSF Mule, and doing a digital overlay in PS, the position of the leaf above matches to this one:  (ICCS certified NSF Mule reverse) Edited by KurtS
12/07/2007 3:43 pm
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Hmmm.... Now I'm not sure. I don't have a Charlton myself, so I'll have to borrow one from the library tomorrow. My catalog lists 6 different varieties, although only four of them are affordable to us mortals. (I use Pierre Charest's "The Book of Canadian Coins and Their Varieties".)
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Topher, thanks for all your advice! Admittedly, I'm attempting something rather difficult, especially since I just started collecting Canadian again after many years. Perhaps I'll have a better clue when these coins arrive, and I'll pick up that book--thanks!
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Going by my Charltons, it appears you have a far leaf variety.
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Hmm...perhaps there are different degrees of "far" and "near"? I just say that because this ICCS confirmed "far" is noticeably different to my eyes:  or:  Again, a graded, confirmed near:  Now the coin in question: I'd like to learn these differences...can anyone explain it in empirical terms? I don't claim to "know", and I'm a little baffled at trying to use diagnostics to spot the mules. I have built several diagnostic tools in photoshop using confirmed "near" reverses to help figure this out. If anyone can cite empirical reasons why one coin is "near" vs. "far" it would be most appreciated. Edited by KurtS
12/07/2007 9:23 pm
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With the graded coin on top you can see how much closer to the denticles the tips of the maple leaf are to your coin on the bottom. At least to my tired old eyes anyways. Other may have a different opinion.   Edited by chrycopaul
12/07/2007 11:05 pm
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Thanks for that...I'm going to have to revisit this and see if it looks differently.
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Ok, you guys are totally right about this. I needed to do more research to understand these differences. While I haven't found any rarities yet, I now know what to look for--thanks for all your insight!
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I think it is a far leaf. The leaf on the right should be closer, and the leaf on the left should almost be touching the edge. Ill post scans of my '53 SF mule when I get the chance.
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KurtS, I have a request: If you have the time, the patience, and the desire, I want to learn to do an overlay. I have PS 7.0, but I get lost every time I try! Can you make a list of the steps, which button to press, and go thru it, step-by-step? There are SO MANY buttons, that I get entirely lost, and just shut down! In the meantime, I'll kick it around AGAIN! Thanks,
Dick
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Dick,
Sure--when work quiets down a little, I'll post the basic steps to creating an overlay of images, as well as transforming the photos (rotate/scale) for easier comparison.
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hi gang, here is a pic of my 53 nsf mule and as you can see both leaf and 9 are almost touching the rim......hope this helps....dan Image:  53nsfmule.jpg99.76 KB |
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Posted 12/07/2007 12:04 pm
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