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An Imperial Suicide!

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Flavius Valentinianus or Valentinian II, was born to Emperor Valentinian I and Justina in 371 CE. Unfortunately for young Valentinian, his father would die in 375 CE. After the elder Valentinian's death, several generals conspired against Gratian, the heir and eldest son of Valentinian I, and decided to make Valentinian II Emperor. Valentinian was four years old at the time. The generals did this to strengthen their own power against Gratian, who they saw as a "pretty boy" who was not disposed toward the army and fighting. This unfortunately would set the trend of young Valentinian being a puppet for others all his life. Gratian reluctantly accepted his younger half brother as Co-Augustus of the Western Empire in late 375.

Sadly or happily (it depends on your opinion of what is to come), Gratian alienated the army by dressing up like a Scythian warrior and gave lavish donatives to his Alan bodyguards. The troops in Britain had had enough of Gratian, who never was much of a soldier, and proclaimed the Comes Britanniae (Count of Britain) Emperor.
The Count led his army from Britain and successfully overthrew and beheaded Gratian in 383 CE. He (the Count) then ordered Valentinian (who was still based in Milan) to come to him "as a father comes to his son." It is unknown what would have happened to Valentinian if he had left for Trier, but most likely he would have been exiled or executed.

Unfortunately while in Milan, Valentinian came across Ambrose of Milan; Ambrose can best be described as part bully and part bigot. In 387 the Emperor/Count finally invaded Italy as a response to the mobilization of the Eastern Augustus's armies. Valentinian II fled with his mother to Theodosius, who then arranged a deal: Valentinian's sister would marry Theodosius in exchange for driving the Count out of Italy.

After multiple bloody battles, Theodosius accomplished his goal. Theodosius then left a Frank named Arbogast in command of the remainder of the Western Empire's armies. Valentinian was still technically Emperor of the Western provinces, but this was only on paper. Aborgast ran the show and made many signs to show that he, not Valentinian was in charge. The situation got so bad for Valentinian that he wrote to Theodosius about the whole affair. Theodosius, who had engineered this to keep Valentinian powerless, was probably very happy with it.

Valentinian finally dismissed Arbogast from his post in response to Arbogast's blatant insults to his authority.When Arbogast received the letter, he simply tore up the resignation papers in front of Valentinian's face and stated that "Theodosius had appointed him to his post, not Valentinian." This threw poor Valentinian into a rage, he grabbed the nearest guard's sword and lashed out at the Frank; Valentinian was easily restrained. Valentinian was probably fed up with being puppet for all his life, he probably decided to end it (his life). On 15, May 392 he was found hanged in his bed chamber. Historians, both contemporary and modern, say that it most likely was a suicide.

Valentinian II is one of the few characters from Late Antiquity that I actually feel sorry for. RIP Valentinian II

Here are two coins I that are going to arrive after I leave the states for my studies. My parents assured me that they will place them in the deposit box in the bank. Lets hope they don't sell them to buy a new purse or tool kit

The Count
Magnus Maximus AR Siliqua
Struck @ Trier between 383-388 CE

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....and the Puppet

Valentinian II Siliqua
Struck between 389-392 CE


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From a statue of the poor guy...



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Very nice additions AM. Thanks for the writeup.
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Thank you Orfew! It is kind words from users like you that drive me to post these pics! That and these are two pretty sweet Siliqua if I do say so my self!
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Those are the two nicest Siliqua I've seen, usually they are bent and broken. Very interesting historical background, that always makes the coins more interesting.
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Thank you Ron! When I saw them I knew I had to eventually get them. If only there was a Theodosius Siliqua to add!
I apologize for the lengthy write up, but I kinda needed to show how pitiful Valentinian II's life was.
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The lengthy write ups make the coins more interesting :)
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Thanks Chuy!
These coins certainly radiate history!
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For me my love of history comes first, and collecting the coins is just a way to express that. I usually keep it to myself, but I'm always surprised when someone has a nice, often expensive collection of ancient coins but knows nothing about the peoples that made them. To each their own though.
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A.M - I can see that your collection of Siliquae will be the envy of many (in years to come), as it is now , to those that know you.
I hope to live long enough to get from you a 'pictorial expedition' through your collection. Personally, I don't have any, but I watch keenly and with some degree of envy as you post your coins, acquisition by acquisition.
Bon Journee, mon ami.
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Awesome coins AM.
A Siliqua is on my " to get " list for this year once I get through my backlog of unknowns.
Quality eye candy as always AM
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Great coins AM, something to look forward to when you next get home.
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Thanks guys and girl! I think I am the only member on CCF that really collects Siliqua.?
Unfortunately this is my last coins to show you guys( and girl) before I leave. I would like to thank each one of you for all the support and kindness. CCF has certainly allowed me to meet and know wonderful people I otherwise would have never met. Thanks and best wishes!
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Oh and by the way; feel free to post your Magnus Maximus, Valentinian II, and Theodosius coins!
VK should blow is away with his nice collection of LRBs!
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 Posted 05/19/2015  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainyesterday555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great write up, and very nice coins. I am venturing into the siliqua market now, largely due to the impressive examples you and other members have provided. Thanks, and best wishes. Your posts will be missed.
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Well that made my day , Captain! Thank you. If you ever need advice on a Siliqua, just ask!
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fantastic write up and some sweet coin AM!

i don't have any siliquae (siliquas? siliqui?), but one is on my list.

this is my only coin of valentinian ii, a gift from a forum member..

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