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New Variety - 1/1 - 1858 20 Cent

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Definitely a 1/1 but on if it is unlisted.
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I'm very surprised that Brian cert'd this. ICCS normally will not list something until it's recognized by Charlton in the front of the book. I remeber seeing this variety in some of the old Zoell stuff from the late 60's/early 70's.
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Why would they use such a narrow topped one..?..

Could it possibly be a die chip..?
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Very similar to the blundered I obverse varieties that are known and recognized by ICCS . They do certify Non standard varieties for an additional cost. This so called 1/1 was listed in Zoell and is a known anomaly. In my opinion certainly not rare or worth the kind of money asked.
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I have seen something like this in the "Cherrypicking Catalog" for USA coins----it referred to "dropped I's " and called them blunders. There is one now on ebay with a 1 sticking out of a neck into the fields. I for one am not convinced this is a variety----have to see more examples---this is the first one I've seen in the last 4 years.
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Why would they use such a narrow topped one..?..
I looked at a zoom photo of the 1 and sort of detected 2 tynes sticking out of the central column and also saw a faint smudge to the left of the top of the 1. If what I see is not an optical illusion , this could indeed be a "dropped 1". Dropped 1's are silver dust and crud accumulations in the die which are dropped in a lump on the planchet before a strike. This explains the narrowness because the cavity of the 1 is narrower at the bottom. If this is a dropped 1, it is not a variety---just a doubling error.
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lambecolin...Thanks for that useful added info..
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