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listed in Brown's British Historical Medals. I'll be posting a few of these. If you have an example, please feel free to show it off.

British Historical Medal #251, Joseph Priestley, comes in two varieties. Warwickshire 32 has a stove on the left side of the reverse while Warwickshire 33 has one on the right. If this medal/token was issued to commemorate Priestley's 50th birthday in 1783, as Brown suggests, it's curious that it found its way into Dalton & Hamer at all.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Priestley
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Yarm ...That's a high-relief, brown beauty you have there. While I have a handful of attraxtive Conders, none of them illustrates comparable relief, and I doubt that they're listed in the "historic" category you mention. I'll look forward to seeing more of these eye-catching coppers.
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In 1789, George III recovered from a bout of insanity (?) generating quite a few medals to commemorate the occasion. There are several varieties of one of these, British Historical Medal #311 by Droz, which are also catalogued in Dalton & Hamer. These are penny sized and listed as Middlesex 179-181.

Medal makers have the luxury of producing a limited number of examples in high relief. This wouldn't work particularly well for issues that were actually intended for circulation.

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Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
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Great looking piece with wonderful color.
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Middlesex 35 is a rare token or medallion issued by W. Mainwaring to commemorate a boxing match between Daniel Mendoza and William Ward in 1791.
Brown also lists it as British Historical Medal #356. The image of this example is taken from a recent Baldwin's auction catalogue.

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The June 2015 issue of The Numismatist has an interesting article on the Numismatic Mementos of Professional Boxing including several other Conder tokens.

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Middlesex 226, an Admiral Gardner election token of 1796 with jabs at Charles Fox. Penny sized, this is also listed in Brown as BHM #411.

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Most of the Conder tokens that are listed in British Historical medals appear in the Middlesex-National and Political and Social sections of Dalton & Hamer. This medalet issued by Mainwaring upon the death of
philanthropist and social reformer John Howard is Middlesex 207 and BHM #343.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/histor...d_john.shtml

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@yarm: Very cool topic!

Problem is, the only way I'd know if a token was in both books would be if I had Brown's Volume 1. So, I'm of little help here.
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Warwickshire 34 (BHM 360) marked the anniversary of the French Revolution with a piece heavy in symbolism.

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Great piece Yarm. What does the symbolism represent here?
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Re Warwickshire 34

In the wake of the Birmingham riots of 1791 (sometimes referred to as the Priestley riots), a token was produced by Hancock to criticize those who would support revolution. Local loyalists had used a pair of celebrations of the French revolution on the night of July 14, 1791 to ransack the host hotels in Birmingham as well as "Dissenter's" homes over several nights.

The token portrays the monster Sedition who has seized the crown and a pole with the cap of liberty. Several imps are feeding off the monster, one with a banner "Faction", another with a torch and sword. On the reverse a snake in the grass basks in the sun.

Here's the Wiki account of the riots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestley_Riots

For history buffs, a contemporary account of the goings on in Birmingham during July 1791 appeared in The Gentleman's magazine (beginning around page 671).

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt...w=1up;seq=95
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Thanks for the info.
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Warwickshire 9, also BHM #444, which refers to a political meeting at Warwick in 1797. Quite a few Conder tokens utilize this hangman motif.

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Background on the meeting and the subsequent token/medal was taken from The Token Coinage of Warwickshire by Davis.

"0: Three men in a cart, drawn by an ass, under a gallows, on which is a demon; one of the men in the cart addressing a crowd of people, "Wrong Heads," armed with bludgeons, axes, &c. On the other side a number of people unarmed, "Right Heads," above "Greatheads." Ex., "Meeting At Warwick, May 31. 1797."
R: "As If From Temple Bar Some Head Was Cut, And On Rebelling Trunk The Face Was Put." Very rare. (Plates E. No. 5 and M. No. 3.)
The central figure in the cart is intended for Dr. Parr, and the figure on left (addressing the people), the Rev. J. H. Williams, Vicar of Wellesbourne; and the third the High Sheriff.
The meeting was held on the Race Course. The object of its promoters was to petition the King to dismiss his Ministers. The wagons from which the speakers addressed the audience were chalked "No Pitt."
The High Sheriff opened the proceedings with much warmth. Bertie Greatheed "pronounced a violent phillipic against Ministers, and state of Parliamentary representation, and proposed the Petition to the King."
This was read by the Rev. Mr. Williams. A challenge by the opponents to put the question "Whether or not the petition was desired by the majority present," was ignored by the Chairman, whereupon the audience divided, the opposing forces being led by the Marquis of Hertford. After a vigorous speech by Sir Francis Burdett in favour of the petition, and a fruitless attempt to speak by Dr. Parr, the Sheriff declared the petition adopted, and closed the meeting.
"A medal is this day published, representing the Right Heads, Wrong Heads, and the Great Heads, as exhibited at the Meeting at Warwick, on May 31, and may be had struck in Silver, Copper and Tin, at No. 20, Gt. Charles St."—Aria's Gazette, June 19, 1797.
Bertie Bertie Greatheed "was a Whig of the old school of Grey and Fox, and, with them, an ardent admirer of the French Revolution in its earlier stages. These political opinions were shared by the Rev. Edwd. Willes, of Newbold Comyn; the Rev. J. H. Williams, of Wellesbourne; and Dr. Saml. Parr, of Hatton."
"At the period of the Birmingham riots in 1791, Parr stood eminent as a butt for the shafts of faction to aim at. His parsonage house at Hatton being threatened by the Birmingham incendiaries, in consequence of his intimacy with Dr. Priestly, his books were removed into a place of safety."—Colvile's Worthies of Warwickshire."
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British Historical Medal #273 celebrated George III's visit to Worcester in 1788. Only farthing size at 22mm, it was produced with several variations
listed in Dalton & Hamer as Worcester 41-46. This silvered example is Worcester 44.

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