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Valued Member
United States
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I don't get this whole perfect PR70 coin. I don't see the point if you have to use a loop to see if it's a 69 or 70. Stop it already collectors.just get a nice example of the coin that's it, as long as it doesn't have a huge visible scratch it should be fine. Stop this dumb fetish with slab coins. Let's get this grading companies out of bussiness and Mike missack also lol. Just collect coins the old fashion way, with eye appeal to you. This scenario is like going to sears and compare a pair of Levis pants and checking the fiber stiches for perfection. People will think your crazy.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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People also send coins to get verified for authenticity.
Edited by Hello There 04/26/2016 10:39 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
18456 Posts |
alvaro77 , I finally found an old school collector who shares my values . and I agree with you 99% . The other 1% is for Hello There's statement that some send their coins to TPG for authenticity .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
757 Posts |
The "old" way of collecting has evolved. Gone are the days of mailing list and coin shops in every town. Now you have the Internet and everything you desire is a click away. The thing with that is with photo editing software you can make a dog look like a beauty queen with the click of a button. The TPG are here to try and eliminate that problem and grade them, so you know what you are getting. To get even more complicated you have cac who verifies the coin and adds their sticker to the slab approving the TPG assessment of the coin. This way buying a coin online you are reasonably sure you will be receiving a nice example. The 70 slabs are more for a registry set type collector where they need the thrill of being number 1. I'm willing to bet there are many members here who don't own a 70 slab as most here are collectors not registry set "competitors" and would rather buy more coins with the money they would spend on a 70 versus a 69. The best part about this hobby is you can collect what you want.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: The best part about this hobby is you can collect what you want.  I have a box of damaged coins. They aren't worth anything to anybody else but each one of them is unique, and they all have a story so I collect them. I don't care for completing albums, so I don't. Others live for it though and I support that. I understand why people like the 70 more than the 69. I don't know enough about grading yet to really be able to tell the difference between the steps between 64-69. I get that 70 is flawless, and I know what a 4 looks like. Haha. I have plenty of low grades.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am not rich enough to buy a set of 70 coins and I am not competing to be the top collectors. It is already well known to me there are many many rich collectors who are willing to spend big money on coins than me ever will be able to. So for now, I collect that I could enjoy. But I understand that if I have a pile of money to blow like winning a power ball lottery, I would buy all my coins in the best grade possible.
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Quote: I don't see the point if you have to use a loop to see if it's a 69 or 70. I agree. I do not see it either. The only reason for me to buy a slabbed coin is that I cannot find one raw. If I ever buy a slab coin it is going to get cracked out. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I hate general rants against the TPG market. Get with it and learn to navigate it or get out of the way. The hobby will never go back to "the good ole days". Pandora's box was opened in 1986 and you can't put the cat back in the bag
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 United States
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No, but you can skin it. (Please note, I do not advocate the skinning of actual cats.)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
724 Posts |
Slab is good for preventing people buying expensive fakes or doctored coins. It gives people confidence to hold their investment in coins and thus expands the appeal to a lot of collectors and non-collectors.
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Pillar of the Community
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 some people won't even buy coins without them being graded.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: Slab is good for preventing people buying expensive fakes or doctored coins. It gives people confidence to hold their investment in coins and thus expands the appeal to a lot of collectors and non-collectors. Yeah, until you get victimized by a fake slab. I don't trust anything anymore, that's why I buy only raw circulated coins. 
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Quote: ...that's why I buy only raw circulated coins. I prefer raw circulated coins, too. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I prefer raw circulated conditional rarity coins like a good f12 03o morgan for example. Love playing with and flipping around a coin that's worth more in F than in low MS 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have to disagree witht hat just about totally.
There has ALWAYS been a system of grading. And the values of coins are rightfully based on that. Whether you call it Unc, Brilliant Unc Gem Unc etc, or MS62, MS 67 or MS70, its the same thing. And if you are truly going to try to say that a Morgan in MS62 is no different than a Morgan in MS68, you are woefully mistaken.
And the old way? Oh please. You mean where I have to listen to some shyster dealer try to tell me why his Morgan should be a gem (a loose term at best) and I should pay that price when it would be lucky to pull a 64? Yeah, I am ALLLLLL for that. Dont get me wrong. I will pummel the grades and supposed Godliness of the hacks at PCGS and NGC any day. And I have. But at least there is a fairly defined set of guidelines for the condition of a coin besides the exceedingly subjective "eye appeal".
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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Slabs lead to less ripoffs and allow collectors to buy a variety of types as well as expensive dates without being worried about the coin being worth much less than they buy it for. Almost everything above $200 that does not have problems is slabbed these days, so if you collect high-end coins, you are buying slabs. The search for the perfect bullion coin is a ridiculous one IMO. I was at a show where a dealer was buying an MS-70 Ike for a client for $3000. The buying dealer and selling dealer were laughing at the client (who was not at the show) and shaking their heads saying maybe we can convince him to buy a Bust Dollar instead so he'll really have something worth something.
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