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1880 S Morgan Dollar! Mirror Surfaces! Please Help With VAM And Grading!

 
 
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 Posted 03/23/2017  6:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I bought this stunner of a coin today, please help me with grading. I was thinking MS 63 DMPL Rev.









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03/23/2017 10:11 pm
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The reverse is PL to DMPL from the photos but the Obverse has cartwheels and look to be "Not PL" due to that. The cheek has some scuffs right in the main focal area that could put the coin in an MS-64 grade but the strike is solid so it could MS-65. The grading companies grade the 79,80 and 81 S Mint Morgan's on a difference curve then ...lets say an O mint coin.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I owned an 1880 S morgan that looked EXACTLY like that, and it was graded MS-63 PL by ICG. It had the weak obverse mirror but the DMPL like yours... I regret selling it.





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ICG is not a company I really trust when it come down to PL or DMPL, I have seen why to many one with hairlines from cleaning and other issues. This is not to say other TPG don't have similar issues, it's just they have far fewer "Mis-Judgements".

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MS64 from what I can tell from the images. The reverse looks PL to DMPL but without deep mirrored fields on the obverse it will not even grade PL.

The obverse die looks like the polished die state of VAM-7 but the reverse does not so possibly VAM-94?
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 Posted 03/30/2017  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK thanks everyone!
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 Posted 04/07/2017  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is in for grading now to ANACS!
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Best of luck and keep us posted!
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 Posted 04/09/2017  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anacs might put "reverse PL/DMPL" on the label. Sometimes they do that for one sided mirrors, sometimes not. Good luck!
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