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Undersized 1939 LWC Or Wrong Planchet?

 
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 Posted 04/24/2017  5:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I don't have a set of calipers handy to check the size, but this is a tad bit smaller (left) than the comparative sample. Also, this appears more brass-like in color. Weight is comparable and within tolerance. Thought?



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 Posted 04/24/2017  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Foreign planchet or PSD.
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 Posted 04/24/2017  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it was plated/painted or some color was added to the coin at one time.
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 Posted 04/24/2017  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe just a copy for a jewelry item? You didn't provide a reverse picture.
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 Posted 04/24/2017  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, thanks guys. Looking at it more, I see a couple spots that suggest paint even though an acetone soak didn't lift it. The smaller size is interesting, but maybe within specifications(?). In a flip and filed under the 'odd' items.
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 Posted 04/24/2017  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rackster, you do have an oddity there. overlays are off too particularly the motto, date and Liberty. You may want Coop and maybe Mike Diamond to take a look. Is this a counterfeit, (?) die details are very similar but yes, planchet size is wrong. If this was a foreign planchet the pattern would have covered the rim. This shows a distinctly smaller die used within a smaller collar. (?)

This needs further study!



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 Posted 04/25/2017  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/25/2017  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about some images of the reverse side?
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Tunnioc, thanks for link, had just seen that option mentioned earlier in the day...never even came back to mind!

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 Posted 04/25/2017  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they are the same weight, then the planchets are normal. Circulation can alter a coins weight. But the rims are the first to suffer. Then the rim get worn down, then the metal is reduced, but was normal when it was struck. Probably the differences in edge thick ness is because of coin wear, not the case of a thinner planchet, just a thicker rim on the coin. (Upset mill make this planchet with a higher proto rim.


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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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