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1936 Canadian 10 Cent Bar W/ Dot ? ( Between Wreath )

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 Posted 05/10/2017  06:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Goldvisor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello I need help identifying this coin. The case claims there's a dot ... I can't see it but also seems to be of a bar variation. Also a rough grading if you could please. Thanks !

https://ibb.co/n1N6Ak
https://ibb.co/hrBzVk
https://ibb.co/ctMcGQ

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 Posted 05/10/2017  10:10 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum. The coin clearly shows a dot ( Die chip ) as described. The "Variety" has been known for well over fifty years. It is listed in the old Zoell Catalogues. This piece shown is well worn and of little significance.
To clarify .....before this gets all "DOTTY" this is NOT a rare 1936 DOT 10 cents of which only a very few exist.
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 Posted 05/10/2017  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be very nice if you could upload your images to the forum using the image optimizer . You will get more attention.
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Images are too big of a file size
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 Posted 05/10/2017  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see a dot, at least where it's supposed to be. There may be someone chiming in here, who Pacific alluded to, that will say it's a "dot". Keep it as a neat thing to have, but not the "rare" one.
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 Posted 05/10/2017  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unruhjonny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definitely a die chip of some sort;
The "dot" variety has a very specific location where the dot was added to the die.
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 Posted 05/10/2017  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the dot, sometimes referred to as the poor man's dot. What I don't see is the bar which increases the value. VG seems right for the grade.

Here is a link to the poor mans dot location it's above the second leaf bunch to the left of the bow.

http://www.numicanada.com/medias/pi...ves-1936.jpg
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It is a "poor man's dot" variety.
Don't see any evidence of a bar in those pics.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Goldvisor, You can resize your photo's with the image optimizer and crop them to get rid of the background.
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So basically FV?
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No, the "poor man's dot" error does attract a premium, not much, but for those who collect ten cent varieties and errors this is a must have item.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 05/12/2017  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goldvisor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been searching online and nothing about an estimated value about the poor man dot
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If anyone could shed a bit of light would appreciate iy
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Catalog value is about $85 for the poor man's dot in this condition, actual market value is significantly less like 30-40%. Not the greatest demand out there for this but there is some. I've seen better condition ones go for around $50(they were probably at least a solid half a grade higher if not a full grade). The only book that I believe has this variety valued recently is Brookstone Publishing's Price Guide for Canadian Coins - Professional Edition, but I could be wrong there.

According to Zoell the poor mans dot is worth about 20% more then the bar variety. However the bar variety seems alot more recognized.

I'd guess $25-30 market value on that but you could always find the right guy and get more.
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