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Gold Coin From The Middle East?

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 Posted 07/17/2017  06:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ashantig to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,
Hope you can help. I have searched the web extensively to try and identify this coin. From the inscription I assume it to be Islamic in origin and judging the quality of the coin, would consider it "old".
However, I am not even sure its a coin - and may be a token of some sort?
Would appreciate any advice.
Regards.
Graeme

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I believe what you have there is a Mohur from India -year 1574.
Check here for more info.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces50776.html

I changed my mind, I think it is a better match with a later year 1575-1579
See here
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces30169.html
With my limited knowledge of these I could not render an opinion on whether it is genuine but it does seem to be okay nice
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 Posted 07/17/2017  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One more thing, you will recognize the pictures (in the link I provided above) better if you rotate them 90° clockwise.
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What is the weight?
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I agree with BigSilver on the identification of this piece, though the pictures NGC provides on their price guide for KM#108.2 looks even closer to the example in questions than the pictures provided by Numista. The variations, according to NGC, run from KM#108.1 to KM#108.6, so Numista's might actually be of one of the other types (with the main difference I am seeing being on the top left of Numista's second picture). And the NGC link can be found here. This is not a cheap coin, so it would sure be great if someone could authenticate this.

And if it helps, the date looks to be 984 in the Islamic calendar.

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 Posted 07/18/2017  03:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ashantig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all very much for your very helpful comments. Just shows one how valuable fora like this one are!
Sel_691 asks about the coins weight - its 10.75g. I presume that this will be around 93% gold?
Once again, thanks for your help.
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Hi again,
One question I forgot to ask is - How can one check that this coin is not a recent copy or forgery? I have no knowledge of its provenance. It was included in my late father's collection of coins, which I think he inherited form his father and so on!
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The weight is correct for that coin that I linked above. To prove its authenticity, you could submit to a TPG such as PCGS, NGC or ANACS. That will cost money. You coukd have the comppsition verified by XRF and that would be a good start.
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