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Silver Dollar Weight

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 Posted 04/28/2008  9:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silverdollardude to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was just wondering, if anyone knows, what the weight will be of a ag-G peace or Morgan dollar. I know the weights listed in the RedBook, but these are for freshly minted coins.
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 Posted 04/28/2008  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Careful while buying Morgans alot of conterfeit ones going around.
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 Posted 04/28/2008  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1337 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they lose 10-15% of their silver. I read this somewhere on this forum. Not sure.
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 Posted 04/28/2008  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverdollardude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just bough a new electronic scale, and plan on taking it to the coinshow this weekend. Isn't it true that most counterfeits are overweight
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 Posted 04/29/2008  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most counterfeits are underweight, since base metals are lighter than silver.
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 Posted 04/29/2008  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking back through some useless facts, I weighed an 1881-cc in G a few years back and got 25.28g. So from a starting weight of 26.7g, I'd expect 1.4-1.5g weight loss to AG. 5-6% weight loss.

From earlier posts, I believe that the retirement point for US gold and silver coinage was 5% weight loss.
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 Posted 04/29/2008  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure what the weight criteria others use are, but for me I take the listed weight (26.73 grams), figure mint variance at +-0.5% or 26.59 if on the low side of tolerance (this is my guess - I've never seen a listing of actual mint tolerances for weight) and I use a wear tolerance of another 1% - so a worn Peace or Morgan weighing less than 26.3 grams would (barring other criteria) make me look twice extra hard.

I recently bought a fake British Trade dollar (the real ones weigh 26.9568 grams per Krause) and it weighed around 25 grams (around 9.25% less than the listed weight) - but the design was really close to a real one (which is why I bought it - as a comparison piece against real ones).

For my comfort level I would pass on anything that was less than 26.3 grams (as mentioned above) and look critically at anything that came in around this level.

Maybe someone else will chime in with better knowledge, but I really doubt a worn silver dollar looses more than a gram. Bear in mind that I wouldn't buy anything less than F-EF (I like to see the designs), so I don't look at a lot of AG-G silver dollars.

At the end of the day, if you feel anything about a coin makes you feel funny, I recommend passing on it. There are lots of coins out there, so it pays to pass on any one (and at least build up your knowledge till you no longer feel uncomfortable about what you are considering buying).

Good luck and use that scale!
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Weight Tolerance for a new silver dollar was +/- .097 grams. I can find nothing specific to the maximum allowable reduction in weight for silver coins by wear except for a clause in the Act of April 1792 that made pieces of less than full weight acceptable at a value in proportion to their weight. I did find a clause for gold coins that required their recoinage when the reduction by weight exceeded .5% Now since the smallest coin in the cent, if a silver dollars weight was reduced by over .5% it would be accepted at the rounded down proportion of 99 cents. So I would say that the maximum allowd Weight Tolerance by wear would be .134 grams or a coin weight of 26.596 grams or,allowing for a low tolerance weight coin when new, 26.499 grams.
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 Posted 05/04/2008  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnAP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weighing is good, I have a scale.....but how do you accurately weigh a coin in a holder, even if it's one of the cardboard/mylar ones?
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 Posted 05/04/2008  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weigh an empty holder.
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 Posted 05/04/2008  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeremymh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think its about 5 percent less, I had a few AGs, thanfully I sold them when silver was at 21
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