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 Posted 02/23/2018  08:05 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone! I have a big curiosity to know, what russian coins have US and other collectors, from countries that are very far away from Russia.
I searched on eBay, there's a lot of russian coins is hard to buy in US.
Also, if you have any questions about russian coins or it's pricing, you can ask it in this topic and I will try to give you an useful answer.
Thanks!
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02/23/2018 08:07 am
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 Posted 02/23/2018  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a huge supply of and decent market for Soviet coinage, mostly the 6th ruble types of 1961-91. It's pretty easy to find late 19th century coppers, but they are usually detector finds in abysmal shape.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy early copper and roubles when I see them in shops. The on-line US dealer I've used the most for copper is Basok.

http://rustypennies.com

A while ago I ran into a dealer who had common gold 5 roubles. I bought them one by one over six months for melt, and have since resold them for melt. They're not that interesting to most people around here other than as bullion.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
About 5 and 10 gold roubles - common years have near melt prices in Russia too. It's a bit higher then melt for a 5-10$.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IIRC, gxseries has a huge Russian coin collection, but I'm not entirely sure how did they acquire it.

I'm more wondering how did you get all those nice US coins on your avatar. Not many of those in coin shops here in Moscow - and the rare examples that do show up have crazy high prices...
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 Posted 02/23/2018  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now my interest in Pavel roubles is whetted again!

One of the coins on my to-get list.

Right now I have a 2 kopek (from Basok) and a fake coronation rouble.

For me, getting a Pavel rouble like getting a Luis cob, or an 1815 Napoleon 2 franc. A must-have coin.

Also in your part of the world, I like Finnish 2 markkaas. I bought my first one in Helsinki 20 years ago, an 1865. I pick them up like the old roubles, but they're MUCH harder to find.

Do you ever holiday near Imatra? I spent 2 weeks there on a business trip. The Finns like their reindeer stew, sour berries and salt licorice.
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 Posted 02/23/2018  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have nearly 300 Russian coins...
http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?album=891

Some found in bulk lots, but mostly traded. Most of the
newer ones come from a friend in Estonia.

Steve :)
View my Coins here, (NOW WITH OVER 13,500 IMAGES).... http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...hp?cat=10048
OFEC count = 237
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 Posted 02/23/2018  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lionel90 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are these 2 copper coins Russian? I got these in Virginia, USA

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 Posted 02/23/2018  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, 1903 and 1881 2 kopek and 3 kopek coppers, both minted at St. Petersburg.

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 Posted 02/23/2018  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I live in Texas in the US and have only a very few Russian coins.

I would like to own some of the silver rubles of the 18th and 19th century but they are very expensive here ($200 for holed and bent coins up to $1000+ for really nice issues of Catherine.) The polushka, denga, and the various other 19th century kopek coins can also be quite expensive except in the low grades.

1700 Kopek, a very tiny silver coin.




1737 copper Denga (1/2 kopek)






1812 2 Kopeyka, St. Petersburg, P. Stupitsyn mintmaster.

From the year of the Russian victory in the Patriotic War of 1812. Tchaikovsky, anyone?






A copper 1870s (?) 3 Kopeyki with a serious planchet flaw!






A well-circulated silver 1893 15 Kopeek, St. Petersburg mint.






1913 copper 2 Kopeyka, St. Petersburg mint.



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 Posted 02/23/2018  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have quite a few Russian coins, including scarce/rare ones. All purchased within the US :)
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 Posted 02/24/2018  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ammcollect Hello - I have owned thousands of Russian coins over the 60 plus years I have been collecting.

In my retirement I am focused on Counterfeits and Forgeries. If you are aware of sources selling forgeries of any country currently operating in Russia I am very interested in the topic. What methods are they using to manufacture forgeries locally or do the import everything from Chinese wholesalers? Also is it illegal to make forgeries of the coins of other countries in Russia?

My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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 Posted 02/24/2018  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I've got so many answers, it's nice.
thq, I watched this site. Very good stock, a lot of coins to choose for, I some prices make me scary. It's ok for US, just unfamiliar for me.
january1may, I found all my avatar coins on local marketplaces. Local shops is the worst way to buy old US coins, usually there's no such coins in their stock, or prices are very unfair. Did you see this topic? http://goccf.com/t/309048&whichpage=1
triggersmob, I carefully studied your collection, mostly there's common russian coins, but it's impressive for non-russian collectors.
Lionel90, yes it is like answered before me.
paralyse, your denga looks very good. What you mean saying "Tchaikovsky, anyone?"
swamperbob, if I could understand you well (my english is far from perfect), fakes of the old russian coins are legal. Only illegal copies of coins, having an actual status of money - since 1997. But if it have a COPY mark it becomes legal.
As I know, there's no counterfeits makers in Russia now, all these bad fakes of old coins we have coming from China.
Some years ago, a few decades, copies were produced somethere near Russia, Poland or another slavic country, I can't remember now. That counterfeits have better quatity and details comparing to modern Chinese, and it was silver 375 or so. I'll try to remember more about it.
Old counterfeits (were made when the coin had status of money) are more attractive for our collectioners and more valuable.
The only illegal thing with all of counterfeits (coins pre 1997) - it's illegal to sell them like originals, it's crime called fraud.
"Also is it illegal to make forgeries of the coins of other countries in Russia?" - no (especially old foreign coins, that now don't have money status on their country of origin), because any foreign coins hasn't money status in Russia.
US coin collector from Russia
Come to see my collection http://goccf.com/t/309048
My wishlist and trade
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02/24/2018 12:37 am
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 Posted 02/24/2018  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you ammcollect your answers confirm what I believe about most countries including the US - that copies of old demonetized or non-circulating coins are generally legal provided fraud is not involved in their sale.

I remember the Romanian forgeries of ancient coins many were very good and some of the types have become somewhat valuable since Slavey became well known. I have a few in my collection. I really admire his ability to mimic designs. I also have one attributed to Becker from the 1820s. I think these forgeries are genuinely interesting. I only agree that very recently made examples need to be marked copy.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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 Posted 02/24/2018  02:37 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've obtained a few from a collector in St Petersburg (in exchange for British coins) and have accumulated current ones from change when visiting Russia in 2010 and 2011. I even once found a 1789 5 kopeck coin metal-detecting in England! Demonetised Russian coins turn up fairly often in dealer's junk bins in the UK.

Here's my 1789 5k detector find:


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 Posted 02/24/2018  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flying_teapot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also I would like to say few worlds about mailing coins from Russia.
As I know, prohibited:
Any coins older than 50 years
Any payable coins
It's smuggling and illegal.
Russian customs works very well, and won't pass off the country anything in this list.
If you have mailing experience of mailing coins from ru tell it.
US coin collector from Russia
Come to see my collection http://goccf.com/t/309048
My wishlist and trade
http://goccf.com/t/311993
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