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 Posted 04/16/2018  4:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Willyp87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So I just received the coin today from an eBay auction. The apperance is great but it only weighs 19.53g. So did I get ripped off?
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So I just received the coin today from an eBay auction


What coin?

Oh, there it is - looks strange
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 Posted 04/16/2018  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel you have been ripped off. It’s a full 7 grams underweight and it has the look of “fake oldness”.
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 Posted 04/16/2018  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that's a fake. Weight is far off from what a normal one should weigh (26.73 grams) and the surfaces have a very weird appearance and color (rather typical for this type of fake).
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 Posted 04/16/2018  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send it back and get a refund.
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 Posted 04/16/2018  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hoolihan lips for sure. Ask before you buy
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 Posted 04/16/2018  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Check BigSilver's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is fake, the weight confirms it, but the appearance is all fake.
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 Posted 04/16/2018  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Check silverwolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how much did you pay for it?
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 Posted 04/17/2018  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add man2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It definitely looks counterfeit. I've been stuck with a few 90% silver counterfeits over the years that I bought for melt value. Is there a market for 90% counterfeits? I remember seeing boxes of counterfeit coins (almost every denomination) for sale at dealer tables many years ago. Each coin was clearly marked counterfeit and priced accordingly. To me they are "junk silver" and basically have melt value.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The one in the photo is most likely not a silver counterfeit. It's most likely some cheap magnetic metal.

Hopefully you didn't pay much for that fake.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you checked the accuracy of your scale by measuring 4 or 5 quarters (new quarters)? They should weigh 5.67 grams each. This would be a good test since it would range above and below the expected weight for s silver dollar.

4 quarters = 4 x 5.67 grams = 22.68 grams
5 quarters = 5 x 5.67 grams = 28.35 grams


Most fakes are closer in weight.
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Is there a market for 90% counterfeits?


They will always be worth the silver value. I also know that there is a small market for contemporary counterfeits, but most of those weren't made of any silver.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cableguy815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you checked the accuracy of your scale by measuring 4 or 5 quarters


Haha. His scale has to be pretty bad to be off 7g. In all seriousness though, there is no need to check anything. The seams on the coin's collar should really be enough to end all doubts about the coins authenticity.


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 Posted 04/17/2018  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has a weird grey look to it. No Morgan will look like that, no matter how circulated it is. A definite fake for sure. Sorry.
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