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Reporting New Canadian Banknote Prefixes

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 Posted 05/17/2018  2:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add polymer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi All,

Like a few others who joined recently, I was for many years a member of Canadian Paper Money Forums and a contributor to the Serial Number Database. It is a shame that these valuable resources are no longer available to the collectors. There is a possibility that the CPMF/SNDB sites will be purchased from the current owner and resurrected, but I am not sure this will happen.

In the meantime, I would like to ask the members who keep track of prefixes to report any new prefixes in this thread. The listing of most recent polymer prefixes is included below. If you see a new prefix, please add a post and include a scan or image if possible. Thanks!

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 Posted 05/17/2018  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF!!

I will probably subscribe (bookmark) this thread, and while I do not collect paper money, I find the prefix rarities fascinating...
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 Posted 05/18/2018  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/18/2018  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is the significance of the green, red and black colouring of the prefixes?
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 Posted 05/18/2018  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add friedsquid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What is the significance of the green, red and black colouring of the prefixes?


I assume the green is the starting prefix for the date/series/signature combination and the red is the last prefix.
The black is the range of prefix within the start to ending prefixes.
That is why current issues are not in red, but in black suggesting more prefixes to be issued

In reality, the colors could be orange purple and yellow...
It was the posters choice of color font...

As for listing new prefixes...a great idea :)
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 Posted 05/18/2018  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add polymer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is exactly right, friedsquid. Green is known (in most cases confirmed by the BOC) first prefix and red is the last prefix for each variety. If the last prefix is not marked with red, it is simply the last known prefix.
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 Posted 05/19/2018  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the response.hmm, haven't been collecting prefixes..... yet. Might have to start looking at banknotes differently than before.
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 Posted 05/19/2018  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really collect paper currency anymore I still like to follow it. I used to like the replacement type bills but lost interest when they got rid of the X markers.

Great idea I might jump back in.
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 Posted 05/19/2018  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add friedsquid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks for the response.hmm, haven't been collecting prefixes..... yet. Might have to start looking at banknotes differently than before.


Just to put my two cents in....If you do start collecting prefixes I suggest in trying to obtain the tough ones (short runs/changeovers etc) as they are the ones that have value and collectability.

I have known too many collectors collecting every prefix to later discover that they are only worth face value..

Of course if investment doesn't matter then go for it...
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05/19/2018 10:56 am
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I don't really collect paper currency anymore I still like to follow it. I used to like the replacement type bills but lost interest when they got rid of the X markers.

Great idea I might jump back in


Just to clarify, the asterisk replacements " * " were in the 54 series and the "X" notes were later.

As for the modern day replacements in the Journey series they are within confirmed ranges that can be found in the Charlton Canadian Paper Money Catalogue.

These replacements can be sheet replacements or Single Note Replacements (also known as SNR's).

As for these, they can be very pricey for the tougher ones.

The one thing many collectors of replacements do not understand is that many older replacements are extremely easy to find as they were easily identified and hoarded by not only collectors but bank employess and other other handlers...
Common ones can be found at most dealer stores or tables at shows..
Modern day replacements due to the way they are found are not easily identified and many times once confirmed and catalogued new prefixes are out.

It is usually the brickers that find these notes and usually are in the best condition before they actually get into public hands and circulate...


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 Posted 05/19/2018  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalmBud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
perhaps a centrally organized spreadsheet/google doc that is publicly accessible maybe the best way to collect and display the information. thoughts?
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perhaps a centrally organized spreadsheet/google doc that is publicly accessible maybe the best way to collect and display the information. thoughts?


all the information is already available in the Charlton Canadian Government Paper Money Catalogue...it can be bought or in some cases be found in some libraries...
And it is updated each year...
Unless someone has an immense amount of time on their hands it would be a big endeavor to take on...
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 Posted 05/19/2018  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Check walk2dwater's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If you do start collecting prefixes I suggest in trying to obtain the tough ones (short runs/changeovers etc) as they are the ones that have value and collectability.


I've posted a chart of what I know to be the change-overs and short prefixes from data I've collected over the past few years. Please take this info with a grain of salt (its a guide only) and should not be taken for investment purposes. For instance, at one point M/C HBG $5 notes were thought to be very rare but then BOC released millions (so they were not rare at all).



S = Short & likely rare prefix [bold]
s = short but undefined (how rare) prefix
c/S = Change over & likely short rare change over (few high/low ranges) [bold]
c/s & * = Change over & possible short ranges reported [bold]
c = typical change-over prefixes
> serial numbers greater than # reported
?= unknown
I cannot recall the actual # of $50 AMG so left it with ? but I believe it may be 1.5 million number range
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 Posted 05/23/2018  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalmBud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
shouldn't the bank of canada have this information available?
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