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Ancient greek coin on an auction - fake? or real?

 
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 Posted 06/13/2018  07:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add logxyz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


There is the Silver Tetradrachm of Lysimachus on an auction. It was made to a brooch with 18k gold. Total weight is 25.6g and diameter is 34.5mm. Is there anybody to tell if it's fake or not? And if it's real, will you suggest regular price? Many thanks in advance.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  07:22 am  Show Profile   Check chafemasterj's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Firstly, that's a beautiful coin.

Secondly, Welcome to the Forum. You've come to a great place to share and learn.

Someone that knows more than I will be along shortly.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Outwardly the coin appears genuine, but difficult to say for sure because of it being mounted in the bezel.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would hate to think that someone would waste spending money on an 18k gold setting on a fake coin. I wouldn't pay any additional, since I'd be taking it out of the setting.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My eyes might be playing tricks on me right under the tip of the neck is that the word copy upside down?
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 Posted 06/13/2018  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse seems to match a fake documented in the IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 3 No.2 Page 14. Even with the grainy BOC reproduction, there are many correspondences to be noted.
According to the Forgery Network, the BOC entry refers to a "highly sophisticated pressure injection moulding technique used...in its production""

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 Posted 06/13/2018  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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My eyes might be playing tricks on me right under the tip of the neck is that the word copy upside down?




Ron, you may be right, but it could just be edge distortion too!
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 Posted 06/13/2018  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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the word copy upside down?


Could be! Man, for a guy who complains about his vision...wow.


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 Posted 06/13/2018  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm surprised too, ate some carrots last night. Don't know how I spotted it, it just seem to draw my attention.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job Ron. Clearly this is a fake and hopefully @logxyz didn't bid on it.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Check ancient67's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done and welcome !
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 Posted 06/14/2018  04:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add logxyz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm simply amazed by you guys. I appreciate it. I feel also bad for whom spent big bucks on the copied coin. And thank you for the warm welcoming.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add museumguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My rule of thumbs is if you even have to ask the question then there is a seed of doubt in your mind so just walk away. The agony of finding out the coin is indeed fake, particularly if you paid a lot of money for it, is just not worth it.

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 Posted 06/14/2018  08:44 am  Show Profile   Check chafemasterj's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@museumguy

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The agony of finding out the coin is indeed fake, particularly if you paid a lot of money for it, is just not worth it.


I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have discovered this Forum before having this happen to me. To have the ability to post something here and have expert eyes give you an opinion before pulling the trigger is priceless.

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My eyes might be playing tricks on me right under the tip of the neck is that the word copy upside down?


Incredible eye to catch that!
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 Posted 06/14/2018  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jafo50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even knowing where to look I scan't see the word copy. Good catch and great eyes echizento.
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