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Another 1969 S (Lmc) I Think It Is MD But Why It Is To Big MD. Please Help

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The"IN' and "LIBERTY" shift but 1969 has DDO alot so I just wonder. Thanks Masters
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That's not a Doubled Die Obverse. That's just Machine Doubling, which is very common on the 1969-1972 Lincoln Memorial Cents.

Here's some helpful information from doubleddie.com


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We define "doubled die" doubling as doubling produced on hubs or dies as a result of a misalignment of the images on the hub and die at some point during the hubbing process.


Your coin shows Machine Doubling, since you can see the reduction of the devices and how it's shelflike in appearance. Check out doubleddie.com and read up on how Doubled Die are made and how they happen. Please read the material I've provided for you. http://doubleddie.com/1801.html
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You also see a slight MAD, A heavy strike, off set to the NE. Just shows how loose the dies were in their holders, a lot of movement then happens as the pressure of striking bleeds off...like a hammer and nail, remember? The bounces move more when loose than when tight in housing.
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I do know that is MD I just wonder why it too big. I did read alk the information you guys provide and I have learned a lot. Thanks Masters.
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Jumpy dies were common on this issue.
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For some reason, the U.S. Mint seemed to have a lot of problems with the die being loose. That's what causes the Machine Doubling.
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MD was more the normal that year. Even the Doubled die suffered with it.
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Of the ones on PCGS, 70% had this doubled die and machine doubled issue that year.
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I believe you are asking why it is Machine Doubling, while the devices appear to be enlarged. In fact, they are reduced in size. It's just harder to tell because of the MD.
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But one type of Machine Doubling does enlarge the devices. It is called push doubling. Still caused the same way, but pushes devices in a direction.
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=push+doubling
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Thanks for all your helps Masters. By the way I look at the Rim ...Why did it happen like that on OS?
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