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What Is An SP Designation For A PCGS Holder?

 
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 Posted 09/17/2018  08:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've heard of MS coins and PR coins but what is a SP coin?

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 Posted 09/17/2018  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It means "specimen strike."
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 Posted 09/17/2018  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It means "specimen strike."

Or special strike, depends upon who you ask ( PCGS Coin Facts many times refers to SP as Special Strike, but the PCGS grading standards strike type calls SP a Specimen Strike)

In any event, the holder of the referenced link to last year's Boys Town $5 Half Eagle Commemorative is mislabeled. It should say MS70 (if you verify the cert, the webpage indicates MS70) as there were no special (or specimen) strikes for that coin
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 Posted 09/17/2018  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Satin finish Proof. SP = Satin Proof
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 Posted 09/17/2018  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with BadDog on all points. We also discussed this recently here: http://goccf.com/t/323989
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 Posted 09/17/2018  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jst1dreamr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This might help
Go here scroll down a little and click on "Designations"
https://www.PCGS.com/grades
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 Posted 09/17/2018  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That "Designations" description on the PCGS site only applies to "Specimen" strikes prior to 1817. It does not apply to SP-labeled coins like 1965-1967 SMS or last years Enhanced Uncirculated.

We discussed these very points in the previous thread I linked immediately above.
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 Posted 09/17/2018  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I was looking for an MS coin not a proof. Looks like a miss labeled ms coin.
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Thanks, I was looking for an MS coin not a proof. Looks like a miss labeled ms coin.

Yup.
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 Posted 09/18/2018  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Specimen, which means "We don't think it looks like a normal business strike and we don't know what else to call it. Stick around a couple years and we may call it something else."
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 Posted 10/05/2018  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serenitystan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SPECIMEN. One strike from a die used to strike a proof coin twice. Also a specimen has avoided the minting distribution process. Die polishing marks can be seen by a 10x Mag.
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 Posted 10/06/2018  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That might be true in Australia or Canada, it isn't true with US coins.
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 Posted 07/27/2021  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooksmith to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What SP that implies is Burnished, which is a different planchet from the Uncirculated. PCGS seems to keep the population and production numbers limited. Sometimes there is a premium for the Burnished planchets. I think that any time there is a special designation it commands more money in the aftermarkets.
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What SP that implies is Burnished, which is a different planchet from the Uncirculated.

Which is still a silly distinction because all planchets are burnished as part of the cleaning process after annealing.
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