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New Member
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I'm new to this forum obviously! So hello everyone  I have multiple coins to upload and ask about however, I'm going to start with one in particular.  Can anyone please let me know what this type of error would be referred to as being? It's a 1971 Lincoln penny and on the Reverse side has a second print on it. Just above ONE CENT is a BACKWARDS E PLURIBUS UNUM also on the outer rim their are markings which would be letters of what the other coin was. ID BE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK PLEASE   |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
7082 Posts |
 To the Forum.
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New Member
United States
6 Posts |
 Thank you Dorado
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Bedrock of the Community
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A "Vise job "  |
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New Member
United States
6 Posts |
Crazyb0
So what does that even mean?
Is that to imply that it isn't a mistake done at the mint or that someone else did this?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
705 Posts |
Unfortunately not an error. Somebody crushed the coins together to transfer the design from to the other.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10021 Posts |
 Mama Mia , that's not a mint error . 
Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day . Teach a man to fish and you've fed him for a lifetime .
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Moderator
United States
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to the Community! Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
15675 Posts |
To CCF! This is not a legitimate error coin. It's a Vise-Job as Crazyb0 said. It's Post Strike Damage ( PSD), meaning that this happened after it left the U.S. Mint (it's impossible for this to happen inside of the U.S. Mint). It's worth face value, since it's just a damaged coin.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/3029611988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900 1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624 Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yep, vise job like Crazyb0 mentioned. Post minting damage, not an error. to the CCF! |
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Valued Member
United States
232 Posts |
Just a good old vise job. I wonder why these seem so common?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just a good old vise job. I wonder why these seem so common? Because they are trying to mimic what they think is an actual mint die error called a "counter-brockage" where two separate errors are occurring making different impressions which may appear inverted as this example from http://www.error-ref.com:  Quote:
A brockaged coin and normal coin, side by side. If a planchet were to be fed on top of and straddle both coins, the resulting error would present a first-strike brockage and a first-strike counterbrockage next to each other on its reverse face.
6) A brockaged coin is struck into another brockaged coin, with the two brockages facing each other.
Each coin will carry a counterbrockage of the other. Where the brockages are in direct contact, the counterbrockage will overlie the brockage. This thought-provoking combination has not been encountered.
7) A brockaged coin is struck a second time, off-center. Then a planchet is struck into it.
The coin that results will have a brockage side-by-side with a counterbrockage. This error has not been encountered.
Permutations: The brockage could be on the obverse face or the reverse face. The planchet would respectively rest on top of, or beneath, the brockage.
8) A coin receives a second, off-center strike while overlapped by another coin. Then a planchet is struck into it.
The second, off-center strike leaves a brockage on the part of the coin that was in direct contact with the second coin. The image below shows such an error, a double-struck 1972-D nickel with a first-strike brockage of the obverse design on the reverse face of the second strike.
If a fresh planchet were to be fed beneath this double-struck coin (or if this coin was fed on top of a planchet), the result would be a coin with a brockage and a counterbrockage that lie side-by-side. Some brockaged elements would likely persist within the counterbrockage. This error type has not been encountered.
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New Member
United States
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Thank you all for the info!
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