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 Posted 12/03/2018  2:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Im sure you all have been over this a million times, but why is toning not env damage
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 Posted 12/03/2018  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's a ton of information (pros & cons) on this subject through out this forum. You might want to do a search first, (top left-hand corner of this page) I'm sure you will find your answer there. If not, I know others will chime in here.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No argument that toning is due to environmental factors. Whether it constitutes "damage" or not is ultimately subjective.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the same reason that circulation wear is not environmental damage.
Toning is part of the natural life cycle of a coin.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Technically it is environmental damage. Toning is basically a form of corrosion, a natural chemical process.

The question is whether the "damage" is market acceptable or not. That is, are enough people willing to pay a premium for it.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...and so it begins.
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 Posted 12/03/2018  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't get me wrong, I have a rainbow toned morgan and I love it. but it is env.damage IMO
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 Posted 12/03/2018  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Environmental damage is when coins become pitted and the surfaces look like something has eaten into them. Hence the word damage. Toning doesn't eat into the coins surface and can be very colorful and beautiful. Instead it's a thin layer of tarnish that hasn't damaged the coins surface.



















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 Posted 12/03/2018  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's better to say what tones a coin ; it's the environment that the coin was in , be it a folder ,album ,2x2 ,paper envelope or any other holder that's not air tight .
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 Posted 12/04/2018  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Used to be an add by Wrigley Gum. Some call it an arrow, some call it a spear.
I guess it you like it, it's toning. If you don't like it, it's damaged.
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 Posted 12/04/2018  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Toning doesn't eat into the coins surface... Instead it's a thin layer of tarnish that hasn't damaged the coins surface.
But it does eat into and "damage" the surface.

Toning is a chemical reaction with the metal of the coin. A very thin layer of that metal must sacrifice itself to become part of the toning. When someone uses a dip (an acid) to remove the toning they take that thin layer of metal with it.

I will agree that toning is usually quite appealing and preferred to what we rightfully call ugly corrosion. But chemistry is still chemistry.
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 Posted 12/04/2018  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning is attractive, environmental damage isn't.
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