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Florida Toned - new ebay term for damaged coins?

 
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 Posted 12/07/2018  10:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Looks like someone is trying to make lemonade.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Florida-To...302986588856

Seller has 166 coins like this...
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12/07/2018 10:21 am
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 Posted 12/07/2018  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
People will try anything to make a buck.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How were they damaged?
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 Posted 12/07/2018  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I store my proof and mint sets in a garage in Central Florida. Due to the high humidity and temperatures, coins stored in this manner tone much faster than coins stored at room temperature.

Translation "I store my coins in such a way that they quickly become environmentally damaged."


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How to spot artificial toning

Look at my auctions.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How were they damaged?


Improper storage in Florida? Perhaps our definitions of damage differ.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well where do you draw the line?

If I leave coin on my window sill and it tones is it now damaged?

If I leave coin in my car and it tones is it now damaged?

If I leave coin on my kitchen table and it tones is it now damaged?

If I leave coin in my pocket and it tones is it now damaged?

Who decides?
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 Posted 12/07/2018  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Who decides?


Sounds like it shouldn't be me. Apologies for sharing my opinion.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not allowed mine?

My point is calling toned coins damaged is a slippery slope.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the coins are not damaged, at least not as defined as a TPG. Toning is a debatable subject what constitutes artificial toning or attractive toning is a very subjective determination.

These coins aren't blowtorched or dipped in AT solution so they seem natural enough to me.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nemlas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will stay out of the damaged or not issue BUT the coins he has for sale are BUTT ugly.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's your world bobby. Let's just agree to disagree.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I won't express my opinion is any of your topics again. It obviously upsets you.
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 Posted 12/07/2018  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like I said in another topic, toning is damage from a technical point of view.

However, we usually avoid calling it damage because of the negative connotations. Of course, this has never stopped those who dislike toning from saying it.
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 Posted 12/08/2018  12:02 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a beauty!






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I store my proof and mint sets in a garage in Central Florida. Due to the high humidity and temperatures, coins stored in this manner tone much faster than coins stored at room temperature.


I think most of us would agree those are unacceptable storage conditions for a coin collection.


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toning is damage from a technical point of view.


I agree. I happen to really like those post-Mint chemical reactions when the results appeal to my eye. However, the overwhelming majority of this seller's "Florida Toned" coins are downright ugly in my opinion.
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 Posted 12/08/2018  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With toned coins the source of the toning is irrelevant. People have driven themselves insane for decades debating it. The only thing that makes a coin is market acceptability. A coin either is or it isn't. It's really that simple. Clearly, this coin is NOT market acceptable.
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