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1879 O Morgan Dollar Double Die Reverse?

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 Posted 03/16/2019  4:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add djmorrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Double die reverse? Please tell me if this I have something special or am I am seeking things. Does anyone have any ideas what VAM it is. I've tried and nothing matches up.




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03/16/2019 10:14 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2019  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Jadey's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. You may want to post a full pic front and reverse. Also post weight and diameter.
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 Posted 03/16/2019  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Check collectinsince65's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collectinsince65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
image of the obverse please.. pass the popcorn GrapesCollects
thank you
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 Posted 03/16/2019  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDBirdman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum!

Obverse, BUS looks doubled
879 doubled, can't tell if the 1 is. I don't see anything else on the obverse

reverse, tail feathers doubled, arrow-heads doubled, medium O high and left but not tilted, polishing lines under left talons, would love to see this one in hand.

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c.../1879-O_VAMs
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 Posted 03/17/2019  06:55 am  Show Profile   Check Jadey's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link to a 1901 Doubled Die Reverse. Yours appears to exhibit all of the same traits.

Very intriguing.
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 Posted 03/17/2019  06:58 am  Show Profile   Check Jadey's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you get a closeup of "God We"? While you are at it, get a closeup of the eagle head. It appears quite clear that there is doubling below the beak.

Also, have you checked to see if this is attracted to a magnet? Can you post a diameter and weight?
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 Posted 03/17/2019  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDBirdman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has a clash from a VAM 24



BUT, the mint mark is wrong for that one, looks like a VAM 14 mark.
The 7 is doubled like a 24.
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 Posted 03/17/2019  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDBirdman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked at every VAM number listed on
http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c.../1879-O_VAMs
I could not find any of these I circled shown or mentioned. Will definitely need better pics and someone knowledgeable to figure it out, or atleast someone much better than I.



Good luck!
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 Posted 03/18/2019  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AU90o to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you have the coin in hand?
Imho, its just shadows due to where the light hits the coin.
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 Posted 03/18/2019  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djmorrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will have this Morgan in hand on Friday. More photos to follow to really see what VAM this may be.
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 Posted 03/18/2019  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Check collectinsince65's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collectinsince65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
djmorrow

Looking forward to seeing your images one in hand

a wise VAM man on another forum suggests that you may compare yours with VAM 39a

use the link above supplied by NDBirdman above to get you there

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 Posted 03/28/2019  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Check Jadey's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DJMorrow

Any updates on this?
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 Posted 03/28/2019  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDBirdman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/05/2019  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Check collectinsince65's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collectinsince65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update?
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 Posted 04/24/2019  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not been on in some time but thought I would remind people that one needs to go to the root ov vamming which is the process of the making of the dies...........
1879-0 was quite a year for vams, as many a detail is not listed........my meaning is 1878 for vams has doubling trippling sextuppling listed in some vams,,,,over 200 are listed for 1878 alone...
Morgans are not the same as the 1955-s double die type coin so, one needs to revert back into the "PROCESS" making of the dies back then, which resulted in so much trouble for the mint to produce a coin that didn't have all the problems of making dies and the errors resulting from this process errors all in one year!
without getting into history and babbling on, as our roots go...
the mint never tried to produce so many coins so the masses of people had "offical" money, coinage in there han...d instead of making there own to barter with, AND the west expanded so rapidly and the eastern government didn't have cold hard cash and the mints tried to produce MILLIONS of coins and soon found they could not produce a die that could mass produce quantities of coins, they broke after nominal use...the production of dies could not be sucessfully reproduced which resulted in doubling or annealing process of the dies which needed to be re-pressed many times because of the deep relief needed, often resulted in many more than doubling, some 1979-0's I have have over 6 layers which in a sence are doubling as the ARE within the die
as ASH would aggree......there is more treasure in your coin to find before you know what it( VAM) is....its a tuff year as I know. weight stuff is not a factor the rules of doubling and not die shifting apply here
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