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 Posted 04/19/2019  10:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this super awesome error, but I can't figure out what it is? Also is the big Thing at the top of the Obverse a grease strike? Help Please! Thanks in advance!



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 Posted 04/19/2019  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse shows a Lamination while the obverse most likely shows a Struck Through Grease error. Although, we'll need to know the weight to fully confirm the possible Struck Through.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/19/2019  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight of the coin is 2.9. That'd be a cool error pair!
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 Posted 04/19/2019  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Check DrDon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is an issue at the bottom of the reverse. I can't tell if it is a split before strike or damage. If split it might explain the area on the obverse.
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 Posted 04/19/2019  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not experienced with this stuff, so I'm just thinking it's damage and a LAM. Again, I'm not too experienced so I'm just taking a guess.
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 Posted 04/19/2019  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since the weight is off, it was probably rolled on thin stock or something like that. Definitely a great find! A keeper!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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04/19/2019 11:20 pm
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 Posted 04/19/2019  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool. Thanks Errers!
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 Posted 04/20/2019  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The line across the coin looks like a ridge.
To my way of thinking, that would be due to a die crack.

Makes for a coin with two interesting errors !
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 Posted 04/20/2019  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I'm pretty happy to find this, mostly because what ever it is it's my first rim to rim.
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 Posted 04/20/2019  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
QuarterHoarder27, your Tapered Planchet is only 0.1 grams off of mine that I found earlier this year. Mine weighs 2.8 grams. Check it out. http://goccf.com/t/337327
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Edited by Errers and Varietys
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 Posted 04/20/2019  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool! Nice find Errers. I'm gonna probably put mine in a flip as well.
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 Posted 04/20/2019  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you QuarterHoarder27! Mine was found in a Customer Wrapped Roll.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/20/2019  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a lucky find. I'm getting my first penny box next week I believe so I'm hoping to find something great.
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 Posted 04/20/2019  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One more question- would this be considered a type of split die? Still looking for my first one of those.
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 Posted 04/20/2019  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
QuarterHoarder27, I believe that is a Lamination error, so it wouldn't be a Die Crack or a Split Die error.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/20/2019  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, thanks for all the help E&V.
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