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1949-S Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die DDO-001, FS-101 Stage A

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tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 1585 Posts	Posted 07/18/2019 10:29 pm Most of the coins in the bag I'm going through are well-circulated, but this somewhat nicer one popped up and turned out to be a good one. Not perfect, but fairly nice overall. 1949-S Lincoln Wheat cent Doubled Die DDO-001, FS-101 Stage A Report this Post to the Staff

CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 249 Posts	Posted 07/18/2019 11:32 pm Very cool! I don't know much about the 1949 s, is that a class 3? Really awesome shape congrats! Report this Post to the Staff
levelsofmadnes Pillar of the Community United States 1122 Posts	Posted 07/18/2019 11:37 pm Nice score tropicalbats favorite device.. the 4. it looks like two different font fours. Variety References: http://doubleddie.com/228401.html http://www.varietyvista.com/ http://coppercoins.com/ http://crdievarieties.com/doku.php Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 1585 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 12:00 am Coop has some interesting opinions about what is going on with these. Hopefully he'll chime in here. Think re-worked die and not a true doubled die, but it's listed as FS-101 so I will keep it as such until someone changes things. Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 4808 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 06:44 am It's a cool one no matter what! My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952 1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1 1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1 ANA id: 3194067 My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM! Report this Post to the Staff
wrongnumber Valued Member United States 492 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 07:29 am Welcome back. Knew it was you with all those fancy numbers after your description lol. Nice one ;) Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 39337 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 08:42 am Another nice one! Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 22940 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 08:47 am Very nice Doubled Die Obverse! More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950 Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961 1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624 Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421 Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638 Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470 Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 38704 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 8:56 pm Years ago, when I first saw this DDO, I wondered if the San Francisco altered a 1948 die and had the last digit changed? Why Did I think that? Comparing the digits of the 1948 cents and the 1949 cents showed me what looks like that happened: Thus seeing both sets of these three digits, make me think that may have happened? CoopHome : 1948 - 1949 altered die DDO on the 4 Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube: 1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/ Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 4808 Posts	Posted 07/19/2019 11:26 pm Coop if that was true that would make this the only C-VII doubled die known right? My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952 1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1 1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1 ANA id: 3194067 My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 38704 Posts	Posted 07/20/2019 7:10 pm But my question is; Why? That is what it looks like that happened. But they used to make the master die with an altered master hub. Working with changing the last digits. http://doubleddie.com/58201.html Quote: When the Janvier Reduction Lathe was introduced in 1907, the first two digits of the date began to appear on the galvano and thus on the master hubs. This was done so that the master hub could be used to make master dies over a period of several years. Starting with the Lincoln cents in 1909, the last two digits of the date were engraved into the master die for each year. Unless they had an extra die left older from the previous year and took the '8' off the die and then re-hubbed it again with the 1949 hub in order to use the die a different year. Figuring the design was closer than they thought. But it wasn't. By the middle of the 1980's the Mint started placing the last two digits of the date on the master design (galvano). New master hubs were prepared each year for each denomination. At this time the Mint also started placing the mint mark on the master design for all Commemorative and proof coins. But that die seems like they didn't follow the usual proceedure? It was like they created a die with an altered 1948 hub and a 1949 hub. They altered the '8' off the hub. But again why comes to mind? The only thing that runs through my mind is that they needed to create a die from that mint that they needed and when ahead and created one from two different hubs. (Problem: The only dies were created at the Philly mint then.) So I'm still at a loss at the question; Why? Just check it seems there were three DDOs like this, but all from the San Francisco mint. Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube: 1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/ Edited by coop 07/20/2019 7:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Valued Member United States 481 Posts	Posted 07/22/2019 8:25 pm Another nice DDO in nice condition. Congrats. Report this Post to the Staff
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